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<div>The first version of the Health Care Directive in the RCW did not have a provision regarding nutrition and hydration. That was some years back, before the first referendum on assisted suicide. One of arguments in favor of the referendum was that withholding nutrition and hydration was not allowed by the then current Washington Law. That first referendum failed, but it led the legislature to amend the law to include the nutrition and hydration provisions. </div>
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<div>Several years later a second referendum allowing assisted suicide passed.</div>
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From: Eric Nelsen <Eric@sayrelawoffices.com><br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Years ago when I was a paralegal, it was explained to me by the attorneys that for some people, removing "life support"--artificial means of keeping the heart pumping, lungs working, etc.--is okay because they're
"unnatural" means of prolonging life, but voluntarily withholding food and water is not okay because it is seen essentially as committing suicide by starvation/dehydration. So some clients want to make a split decision, recognizing that they can end up in
the Terry Schiavo-like state in some circumstances.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 12pt;">Sincerely,</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com?" target="_blank">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 16, 2015 11:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] HCD Internally Inconsistent??</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Listmates: Happy Friday. The Health Care Directive statute (RCW 70.122) statutory form says, clearly, that if the signor is diagnosed to be in a terminal condition or a permanent unconscious condition, then “life-sustaining treatment”
shall be withheld or withdrawn. But, later the form gives the signor the right to choose between having “artificially provided” food and water or not having artificially provided food and water. WHAT?!?!? If a person signs the form but checks the box that
says the signor wants the food and water tubes, then what? Aren’t these inherently inconsistent provisions. Aren’t the food and water tubes “life-sustaining treatment?” It now seems to me the HCD shouldn’t even be used if the person wants to be left hooked
up “because they are finding new cures all the time” or for whatever reason. I always thought that the HCD was used to express the signor’s desires WHETHER to have the doctors pull the plug and the signor could elect to be left hooked up by checking the box
saying the signor wants the artificially provided food and water. Now, I question this assumption. Remember, in the Terri Schiavo case in Florida the “life-sustaining treatment”
<i>was</i> the food and water tubes. Am I missing something? Anyone willing to talk me back from the ledge?? None of my secondary sources discuss the issue and I am re-working my forms.</div>
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