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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif"">I agree. The marriage is a marriage under federal law.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Creahan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 5, 2015 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Domestic Partnership and Civil Marriage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="color:#595959">Hi Lincoln,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="color:#595959">I believe that the couple’s first marriage is valid following
<a href="http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf">Obergefell</a> (at 28):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="color:#595959">The Court, in this decision, holds same-sex couples may exercise the fundamental right to marry in all States. It follows that the Court also must hold—and it now does hold—that there
is no lawful basis for a State to refuse to recognize a lawful same-sex marriage performed in another State on the ground of its same-sex character.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="color:#595959">I don’t think that their Washington actions would affect the validity of that marriage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="color:#595959">My $.02.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span style="color:#595959">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Tw Cen MT","sans-serif";color:#595959">John Creahan</span><span style="font-family:"Tw Cen MT","sans-serif";color:#595959"><br>
<a href="mailto:john@cairn-law.com"><span style="color:#595959">john@cairn-law.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lincoln Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 5, 2015 10:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <<a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Domestic Partnership and Civil Marriage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Same-sex partners who are Washington residents marry in other state where same-sex marriage recognized (at time when Washington state does not recognize SSM).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Later, partners register as domestic partners in Washington (at time when Washington state does not recognize SSM).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Subsequently, Washington allows SSM and RDPs dissolve, with some exception, and convert into marriage on June 30, 2014 (the “DOMA Amendment”)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In this particular instance, an exception applies and the RDP does not automatically dissolve and convert into marriage because one of the partners is older
than 62 years old.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The DOMA Amendment provides that for purposes of determining legal rights and responsibilities involving individuals who had previously had a state-RDP and
had been issued a marriage license or are deemed married, the date of the original state-registered RDP will be considered the legal date of the marriage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">So, which of the following is the partners current legal status:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Even though the RDP did not automatically dissolve and convert into marriage, the partners are nonetheless deemed to be married as of the date of
the Washington RDP by virtue of their out-of-state marriage that pre-dated the RDP? or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Because the RDP did not automatically dissolve and convert into marriage, the partners must solemnize their marriage (again) in order to dissolve
the RDP pursuant to RCW 26.60.100?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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