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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Related question: are DSHS claims typically (always?) unsecured? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>For example, in an insolvent estate where there is a secured creditor – note holder with a recorded deed of trust – would a DSHS claim be subordinate?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Ronald G. Housh, P.S.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Attorney at Law</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Seattle Office:</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Seattle, WA 98101-2393</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Phone: 206-381-1341</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Fax: 206-464-0461</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Email: </span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><a href="mailto:ron@housh.org"><span style='color:#1F497D'>ron@housh.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Mount Vernon Office:</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>21411 Bluejay Place</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Mount Vernon, WA 98274</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Phone: 206-235-2459</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Email: <a href="mailto:ron@housh.org"><span style='color:#1F497D'>ron@housh.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><div align=center><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=600 style='width:6.25in'><tr><td width=324 valign=top style='width:243.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#5C5B5B;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td><td width=276 style='width:207.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert R. Cole<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2015 11:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Apparently insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>How many other unpaid creditors do you have? If few, might talk with DSHS re: keeping the non-intervention powers, by them getting everything after the others are paid.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Very Truly Yours,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Robert R. Cole<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Law Office of Cole & Gilday, P.C. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>10101 - 270th St. NW <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>P.O. Box 249 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stanwood, WA 98292 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(360) 629-2900 (Telephone) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(360) 629-0220 (Fax) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This message contains confidential and privileged information that is intended only for the named recipient(s). Unless you are the named recipient or authorized agent thereof, you are prohibited from reading, copying, distributing or otherwise disseminating such information. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><span style='position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>On 7/27/2015 11:44 AM, Lovie Bernardi wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Dear listmates,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I recently opened an intestate probate with limited assets that appeared solvent at the time of filing. One asset, part ownership in a tavern (actually shares of stock in the small corporation that owns the tavern), has yet to be valued (we’ve just started negotiations for a buyout by the other owner.) A car is up for sale on Craigslist. When I arrived at the office this morning there was a large envelope from DSHS, a creditor’s claim for $90,000 for medical bills paid out over several years, and a request for special notice. The PR was unaware of this possible claim.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I realize I need to file a Notice of Apparent Insolvency and schedule a hearing, with notice to heirs, unpaid creditors and those requesting special notice. What can be done in the meantime, pending the hearing? Can the PR sell the car if she receives offers? The special notice statute requires notice of petitions to sell assets of the estate, and under her nonintervention powers would not have petitioned the court for the sale of the car. Can we negotiate the sales price of the tavern and complete the sale? If anyone has a sample of something they’ve filed, that would be appreciated. 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