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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks, Michael, Heather and Robert. I called DSHS and they are fine with us proceeding without court intervention in order to keep costs down. They often will compromise on the claim in order to allow the heirs to receive something from the estate. I appreciate the practical tips. Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Lovie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-numeric ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Winslow<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2015 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Apparently insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Until you know the stock in the tavern corp plus the other assets are worth less than the DSHS debt, I would say your estate is not truly insolvent. If you sell the car at FMV, then where is the harm to creditors?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Once you know it is insolvent, then my understanding of the statute is that you must suspend PR activity until you get to hearing on the insolvency.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>But I nursed an estate along for two years on the <i>brink</i> of insolvency. , Our real estate in that estate had a broad range of values, based on various agents’ views of the conditions on site. We finally received a low offer, after a long time on market. The offer was for less than the creditor’s claims. I then went to the creditors and negotiated a settlement, which paid the creditors a reduced amount, paid the PR for their time, paid administration expense and resulted in closing without sending out the notice or terminating the NI powers. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Michael A. Winslow<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>1204 Cleveland Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Mount Vernon, WA 98273<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Ph. 360-336-3321<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>Em. Mike@winslegal.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='color:#1F497D;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>This message is from an attorney, so it’s confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, it’s too late to stop reading this message, but you may not use it for any improper purpose. Huge Disclaimer available upon request.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lovie Bernardi<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2015 2:38 PM<br><b>To:</b> cole-gilday@stanwoodlaw.net; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Apparently insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Can anyone tell me if the administrator can continue to use her non-intervention powers at this point? Or is it better to hold off on any actions until after we petition the court for further direction? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert R. Cole<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2015 11:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Apparently insolvent estate<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>How many other unpaid creditors do you have? If few, might talk with DSHS re: keeping the non-intervention powers, by them getting everything after the others are paid.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Very Truly Yours,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Robert R. Cole<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Law Office of Cole & Gilday, P.C. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>10101 - 270th St. NW <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>P.O. Box 249 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Stanwood, WA 98292 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(360) 629-2900 (Telephone) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(360) 629-0220 (Fax) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This message contains confidential and privileged information that is intended only for the named recipient(s). Unless you are the named recipient or authorized agent thereof, you are prohibited from reading, copying, distributing or otherwise disseminating such information. If you receive this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other'><span style='position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt'>On 7/27/2015 11:44 AM, Lovie Bernardi wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Dear listmates,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I recently opened an intestate probate with limited assets that appeared solvent at the time of filing. One asset, part ownership in a tavern (actually shares of stock in the small corporation that owns the tavern), has yet to be valued (we’ve just started negotiations for a buyout by the other owner.) A car is up for sale on Craigslist. When I arrived at the office this morning there was a large envelope from DSHS, a creditor’s claim for $90,000 for medical bills paid out over several years, and a request for special notice. The PR was unaware of this possible claim.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I realize I need to file a Notice of Apparent Insolvency and schedule a hearing, with notice to heirs, unpaid creditors and those requesting special notice. What can be done in the meantime, pending the hearing? Can the PR sell the car if she receives offers? The special notice statute requires notice of petitions to sell assets of the estate, and under her nonintervention powers would not have petitioned the court for the sale of the car. Can we negotiate the sales price of the tavern and complete the sale? If anyone has a sample of something they’ve filed, that would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Lovie Bernardi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Attorney at Law</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Seligmann & Flaherty, PLLC</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>216 First AVE S, #450</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Seattle, WA 98104</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(206) 682-2616</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:joni@sbfirm.com"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>lovie@sbfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://sbfirm.com/"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://sbfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>**********</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. 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