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<DIV>Interesting quote. I would paraphrase the handbook to say that the PR
owes a duty to heirs to make sure that all creditors’ valid claims are valid
under state law, (which includes that a creditor is not given assistance in
validating the claim by the estate, normally) and then IF a creditor
properly presents a valid claim then the PR has a duty to pay it. An
outcome of that can be to preserve an estate for a lawful beneficiary. PR
certainly must retain assets for the 2 years in order to avoid potential
personal liability.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=john@cairn-law.com
href="mailto:john@cairn-law.com">John Creahan</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 20, 2015 6:13 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] Good to Go as Creditor</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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agree with Heather. As a practical matter, creditors are likely to find out
within the 24 month limitations period. I also question whether the personal
representative is fulfilling his or her duty by trying to preserve the estate
for the son’s benefit. I have never researched this issue, but the Estate
Planning Council’s Fiduciary Handbook says that t</SPAN><SPAN
style='mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>he personal representative
“owes a duty to the creditors of the estate so that all valid claims are paid to
the extent assets are available.” If this is correct, the PR is potentially
protecting the estate assets while opening herself up to personal liability for
the decedent’s debts.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Heather deVrieze<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 20, 2015 2:45
PM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
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style='FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>I
suspect that opening probate alone might trigger action by some creditors.
Either the estate is solvent or it isn’t, and if it isn’t, there are additional
duties imposed on the Personal Representative. If claims are made, they will
need to be addressed. There is no affirmative obligation to notify creditors if
you aren’t publishing, but my experience is that they figure out what is going
on when they call and someone lets slip that there is probate, or when they hire
a collections company that knows what they are doing. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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experience is that Good to Go has a process, and they will send to collections
if they don’t get paid and don’t agree with your dispute of the
bill.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B><A href="mailto:amanda_wilson@olypenlawoffices.com"><SPAN
class=SpellE>amanda_wilson@olypenlawoffices.com</SPAN></A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, July 20, 2015 2:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> WSBA Probate & Trust
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Creditor<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Hello~<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I have a probate where it
was the best course of action to open a probate but not publish notice to
creditors. (The reason being that there was a Deed in the name of the decedent
that needed to be transferred pursuant to a divorce decree, but otherwise the
estate is worth 30K. The estate is to be held in trust for the decedents son
until the son turns 25, four years from now. There may be a lot of creditors.
Everyone agreed to wait out the two year statute of limitations).<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">First Question: Am I
correct that for creditors we know of, because we are willing to wait out the
two year statute of limitations, we have no obligation to notify them of the
probate or the death?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Second Question: Good to
Go (toll booth) has sent a bill to the deceased and is threatening to send more
bills. The date of the toll fee is after the decedent's death, the car has since
been sold, and we do not have anyone coming forward saying it was their trip
through the toll booth instead of the decedent's. My Personal Representative
sent Good to Go a copy of the death certificate and Good to Go sent back a
denial of the dispute. My Personal Representative is very bothered by this, but
I hate to bring to their attention that we have an open probate. Has anyone
dealt with Good to Go who can advise me?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Amanda
Wilson<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><STRONG><SPAN
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