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I'm not defending any insurance company or bank, but I suggest we
keep in mind Civil Procedure 101 -- mailing or personally serving a
notice of a hearing does not give the court personal jurisdiction
over a non-party (one that has not sought judicial relief, formally
appeared as a party, or been served with process). So if an order
directs that the non-party act in some manner, that order is void
for lack of personal jurisdiction over the non-party. I recognize
that an insurance company or bank may choose to act as directed in
some court order, however it could just as well ignore the order
until it becomes subject to the jurisdiction of the issuing court.
That is accomplished by serving the non-party with a citation (that
is the functional equivalent of a summons) or possibly with an order
to show cause that directs them to appear and respond to some
motion/petition.<br>
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Doug Schafer, in Tacoma<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/18/2015 3:28 PM, Jill H. Sasser
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have done what Marcus suggested below, and have never had a
problem. I think that the insurance companies do not want
to read and interpret laws, but they are willing to comply
with court orders that appoint custodians for UTMAs, or
appoint trustees, or appoint guardians. I do notice the
insurance company, and my order includes language that
directs the insurance company to distribute to the
custodian.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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H. Sasser | Attorney at Law</span><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus Fry<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 18, 2015 12:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Life insurance company
requires parent of minors to be appointed guardian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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have got the push back, but have sent them the UTMA statute
and it worked just fine. Why doesn’t the PR simply petition
for an order directing insurance co. to distribute to
custodian FBO child under UTMA and serve notice to insurance
co. for hearing on the petition. Let insurance company show
up and argue that a gship is necessary. One could even use
TEDRA if they wanted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><span
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New";color:#1F497D">Lyon, Weigand & Gustafson,
P.S.</span><span
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