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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Forgive me if this is a silly question, and I realize this does not answer your questions, but - if H is the beneficiary of the SNT, can he also act as PR? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t know the other pertinent facts of your situation, just wondering . . . <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jim Dolan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>===================<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jones Butler Dolan, PS<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>www.jbdolan.com<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>www.jonesbutlerdolan.com<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Mount Vernon<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 2784<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>720 South Main Street<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Suite 233<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Mount Vernon, WA 98273<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Telephone: 360-336-2939<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Facsimile: 360-336-2949<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Stanwood<o:p></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>P.O. Box 458<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>10027 - 269th Place NW (SR 532)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Stanwood, WA 98292<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Telephone: 360-629-3833<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Facsimile: 360-629-6253<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></span></u></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] SNT and IRAs<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anyone??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 4, 2015 12:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] SNT and IRAs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Listmates: H & W make contributions to traditional IRAs and Roth IRAs over the years. W dies and leaves a Will with all of her assets going to a special needs trust (“SNT”) for H. There is no “Super Will” provisions in the Will for non-probate assets. H is presumably the sole beneficiary on the non-probate assets. H opens probate as the personal representative. Assume that H wants to transfer as many assets as possible to the SNT.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>1.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>How does H, as PR, get at and transfer W’s IRAs to the SNT? Is this where a waiver would work if H is the only beneficiary listed on the savings account? What if a waiver doesn’t work because there are alternative beneficiaries (adult children) on the accounts?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in'>2.<span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>How do Washington’s community laws work here? Shouldn’t, technically, ½ of W’s savings accounts go into the SNT and ½ of H’s savings account go into the SNT?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>All guidance appreciated. <o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>