<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:'times new roman',serif"><font size="6">Ok, however, if both parties simply want a CPA, you'd still advise separate counsel? WITH a prenup?</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Maureen Wickert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wickertlaw@comcast.net" target="_blank">wickertlaw@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div>Separate independent counsel is necessary for the two individuals as part of the procedural fairness of the agreement. See <a name="14c9575d982aca95_107wn2d0479"></a>107 Wn.2d 479, Marriage of Matson, 1986. <br> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";COLOR:#1f497d">I’d be very careful – prenuptial is always preferred course. I generally never convert separate property to community property unless there is a very specific reason for doing so. “I love you” is not a good enough reason. The rights are different both at death and upon dissolution of marriage (and these are the areas of conflict). If the clients elect to convert without separate counsel and you are willing to act for both (and I agree with John’s comment), you should provide very clear disclosures in the document indicating the potential for conflict and the recommendation for separate counsel. My two cents, Eileen</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com" target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Victor R<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] When "Not" to Advise a Pre-Nup?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:24pt">I don't see ANY conflict of any kind, however (and this is not an easy thing to say).</span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:38 AM, John Creahan <<a href="mailto:john@cairn-law.com" target="_blank">john@cairn-law.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:24pt">We got a potential situation where Prior Marriage Assets from one spouse AND a size-able Inheritance coming from the Mother of the 'other' spouse are involved.</span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:24pt">1) When do you NOT advise a pre-nup? Under what conditions?</span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:24pt">My thinking: Simple CPA should to the job, assuming they want to comingle everything.</span></p></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE:24pt">2) ... I'm wondering Is there a Presumption of any kind where "Separate" Property becomes "Non-Separate" Property/Community Property? Or once "Separate" Property, no time limit & Forever Separate Property, UNLESS a new Instrument is Drafted?</span></p></div>
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