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<DIV>Victor,</DIV>
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<DIV>Proceed with caution. If the parties are not married, I would
recommend a pre-nuptial agreement, and one of the tests as to whether such
a contract will be enforced is whether both parties had independent legal
counsel. If the parties are already married, a postnuptial agreement
should do it, with the same caveat about both parties having independent legal
counsel. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The typical prenuptial or postnuptial agreement is an attempt by
one or both parties to get around the fact that in a marital
dissolution proceeding, all of the property of the parties, both community
<STRONG>and separate</STRONG>, comes before the court for a just and
equitable distribution. A well drafted prenuptial or postnuptial
agreement clearly identifies what is separate property and what is
community property, and makes it plain that neither party, nor their
successors, can assert a claim to the separate property of the
other in the event of divorce or death.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Having said that, this is an area of the law that frequently results
in malpractice claims. Be careful. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dewey</DIV>
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<DIV>Law Office of Dewey W. Weddle, PLLC<BR>909 7th Street<BR>Anacortes,
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<DIV>Victor, To address your question, a spouse has what is considered
separate property from prior marriage and a spouse (maybe the same spouse) has
a sizeable inheritance coming to him or her. RCW 26.16.010 defines
both circumstances as the separate property of the spouse holding such
property. However, things get muddy when the separate property is then
commingled with community property. The spouse holding the separate
property must source back property in question as his or her own separate
property to overcome community property presumptions. The answer to your
question is dependent on the intent of the husband and wife during their
lifetimes and after deaths such as blended families (if any), disposition of
their estates, with separate property is there separate obligations, etc? If
they truly want to have their own separate property respected, they each
should seek their own independent counsel. If the parties are married, you are
really talking about a post-nuptial agreement. A lot of underlying
questions. <BR></DIV>
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size="6">Ok, however, if both parties simply want a CPA, you'd still advise
separate counsel? WITH a prenup?</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Maureen Wickert
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<DIV>Separate independent counsel is necessary for the two individuals
as part of the procedural fairness of the agreement. See 107
Wn.2d 479, Marriage of Matson, 1986. <BR> </DIV>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif"; font-size: 18pt;'>I’d
be very careful – prenuptial is always preferred course. I generally
never convert separate property to community property unless there is a very
specific reason for doing so. “I love you” is not a good enough
reason. The rights are different both at death and upon dissolution of
marriage (and these are the areas of conflict). If the clients elect
to convert without separate counsel and you are willing to act for both (and
I agree with John’s comment), you should provide very clear disclosures in
the document indicating the potential for conflict and the recommendation
for separate counsel. My two cents, Eileen</SPAN></P>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><B><SPAN style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> <A title="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A> [mailto:<A title="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Victor R<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WSBAPT] When "Not"
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<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">I don't see ANY conflict
of any kind, however (and this is not an easy thing to
say).</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">Their situation:
"What's mine is yours and what's yours is mine"</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:38 AM, John Creahan <<A
title="mailto:john@cairn-law.com" href="mailto:john@cairn-law.com" target="_blank">john@cairn-law.com</A>>
wrote:</P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">I would be very
careful about attempting to represent both parties.</SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">John</SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89);"> </SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style='color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; font-size: 14pt;'>John
Creahan</SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><SPAN style='color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";'>206-621-5848<BR><A
title="http://www.cairn-law.com/" href="http://www.cairn-law.com/" target="_blank"><SPAN
style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">www.cairn-law.com</SPAN></A></SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89);"> </SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89);"> </SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><B><SPAN style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style='font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> <A title="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A> [mailto:<A title="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com"
target="_blank">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Victor R<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 7, 2015 11:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
<A title="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com"
target="_blank">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [WSBAPT]
When "Not" to Advise a Pre-Nup?</SPAN></P>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN
style="font-size: 24pt;">Members:</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">We got a potential
situation where Prior Marriage Assets from one spouse AND a size-able
Inheritance coming from the Mother of the 'other' spouse are
involved.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">1) When do you NOT
advise a pre-nup? Under what conditions?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">My thinking:
Simple CPA should to the job, assuming they want to comingle
everything.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">2) ... I'm
wondering Is there a Presumption of any kind where "Separate" Property
becomes "Non-Separate" Property/Community Property? Or once "Separate"
Property, no time limit & Forever Separate Property, UNLESS a new
Instrument is Drafted?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">Your input is very well
aprreciated, here.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="font-size: 24pt;">thanks.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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