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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2015 9:56 AM, Eric Nelsen
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I agree with
Kerry. The statute is
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=26.09.170">RCW
26.09.170(3)</a>. If there is an obligation-after-death
provision in the Order of Child Support, then I think the
Will could simply state that the child may have a legal
claim against the Estate based on the Order of Child
Support, but except for lawful fulfilment of such claim as
it may be presented, the child receives nothing under the
Will.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I don't think
an actual bequest is necessary, because the Order of Child
Support typically does not require maintaining a bequest for
the child (though some do actually say that), but rather
that the Estate is burdened by the obligation, regardless of
what the Will says.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As an aside, I
wonder if such an obligation is subject to the creditor
claim process. I
<i>think</i> it would be, but since it's a court ordered
obligation, does it really need an individual to step in and
file a claim in order to make it good?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">Eric C. Nelsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D">SAYRE LAW OFFICES,
PLLC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kerry Richards<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 20, 2015 9:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] How to provide for
Testator's child support obligation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dear Sara:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Child support
obligations die with the obligor parent according to the
applicable statute. I suggest you examine the Order of Child
Support to see if the parties have agreed the support
obligation should survive the death of the parent. If they
have agreed to the obligation surviving the death of the
parent, they also probably have a security device in place
such as life insurance or the right to make a creditor’s
claim against the estate. I would investigate a bit more
which will reveal the best course. If it dies with the
obligor parent, then what you have done may suffice. If the
obligation survives, there could be a calculation on a
declining basis to include in the will. Then again, the
purchase of a term policy of life insurance could also
handle the task. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal">How would you draft a will provision for a
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