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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/19/2015 2:03 PM, Heather deVrieze
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If
all heirs and devisees agree that the copy is a true and
correct copy of the authentic unrevoked Will, I don’t think
you need much more. If you don’t have that, you need to go a
lot farther.</span></p>
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<b>I have done something a little different many, many times before
without problems, which is to file a TEDRA Agreement by the
interested parties in which they not only validate the copy of the
Will but also agree that it shall be considered for all purposes
as as if it were the original of Decedent's Will. Here's its
essence:</b><br>
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style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>1.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Decedent.</b><span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Decedent died testate on
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then a resident
of <st1:city><st1:place>Seattle</st1:place></st1:city>, <st1:place><st1:city>King<b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"> </b>County</st1:city>,
<st1:state>Washington</st1:state></st1:place>,
and left property in this state subject to probate.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>2.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Heirs &
Beneficiaries.</b><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Decedent
died unmarried and survived by his
two children, both adults, who are Decedent’s only heirs:</p>
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style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>3.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Will.</b><span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>A copy of Decedent's last
Will dated
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style="mso-bookmark:
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style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>Decedent signed the Will on that date while competent,
and its subscribing
witnesses are
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style="mso-bookmark:
Text8"></span>, whose Affidavit is subscribed to the Will.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Despite a diligent search
for the original of
Decedent’s Will, it remains unfound.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We
believe the attached copy is a true & accurate copy of
Decedent’s
Will.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We agree that the
attached copy
shall be considered for all purposes as if it were the original
of Decedent’s
Will, & that it remains valid & unrevoked.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none"><span
style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>4.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Petition for
Probate</b>.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>We agree
to:<span style="mso-bidi-font-size:
10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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of Decedent’s Will, as evidenced by the attached copy.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style="mso-bookmark:Text9"></span><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt"> as Personal
Representative of Decedent’s estate.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt">, as PR.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<b>If I'm unable to get that, then, yes, I get current Declarations
from the Will's witnesses.</b><br>
<br>
<b>And if I can't get that from one of them, I get a Declaration
from somebody who recognizes</b><b> that witness' signature.</b><br>
<br>
<b>And like Heather, I have found the Court to be reluctant to find
a Will copy acceptable, so I pour on the evidence.</b><br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ideally
you can get the original witnesses to attest to the
authenticity of the copy of the Will. I’m not sure it is
required by the statute, but I have always had at least one
witness, or in one case the wife of a deceased witness
attest to the process and the authenticity of the copy. e.g.
“I recognize the signature of the witness on the copy of the
Will and Affidavit appended to it to be mine, I also
recognize the signature of the other witness, who was my
secretary/partner/paralegal to and it was our office
procedure to always confirm the identity of the testator and
sign immediately after him both on the Will and the
self-proving affidavit.”
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
usually produce another signed (notarized if possible)
original document signed by the testator, like a Power of
Attorney or bank signature card.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Finally,
any disinterested witness who can attest to the authenticity
and unrevoked status of the document are of additional
benefit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Early
in my career I was sent away by the commissioner to do more
than what seemed like enough to me. I have learned that in
this area, more is better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Vladimir
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style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6">CONFIDENTIAL
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Yates<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 19, 2015 1:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Proof of Lost Will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I've
been combing the archives, reading various helpful emails
betwen members of this list, and trying to understand how to
use 11.20.070 and am stuck on the following point:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I have
in my possession a photocopy of a Last Will, complete with
signatures and a signed affidavit of witnesses. Does this
photocopy of the signed affidavit of witnesses qualify as
the proof that "must be reduced to writing and signed by any
witnesses who have testified as to the execution and
validity" from 11.20.070 (1)? Or, must I go out and find
the persons who witnessed the Will to have them provide the
same Affidavit information in a new and Original form?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">It
seems like I should be able to use the signed Affidavit
photocopy, plus a Declaration that the Will was not revoked,
plus a Declaration from almost anyone who has seen even a
copy of the Will waived in front of their nose by the
Testator (of which I can obtain several), and that should be
enough.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">Am I
missing something?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto">Gratefully,<br>
<br>
Jeremy Yates<o:p></o:p></p>
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