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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/2015 5:54 PM, Spencer Stromberg
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<div dir="ltr">I'm sorry to be a contrarian, but I believe the
abbreviated legal description is required regardless of whether
the full legal is on the first page or not.</div>
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<b>This has not been my experience. In the caption, where the
"summary legal description" is usually placed, I have always
simply copied the full legal description from the body of the
Deed, & I have never had such a Deed denied recordation on
that basis in a wide variety of counties in WA.</b><b> Mind you,
I'm not saying that one can omit a legal description in the
caption --- only that the legal description need not be the
summary or abbreviated description --- the full description will
suffice (& that providing it eliminates the risk of providing
an erroneous summary description where the full description on the
Deed is correct).</b><br>
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<div dir="ltr"> RCW 65.04.045(1)(f) requires that the deed
include on the first page: "An abbreviated legal description of
the property, and for purposes of this subsection, “abbreviated
legal description of the property” means lot, block, plat, or
section, township, range, and quarter/quarter section, and
reference to the document page number where the full legal
description is included, if applicable;"
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<div>In my experience, the abbreviated legal for a condo unit
would be "Unit X of ABC Condominium." At least the Spokane and
Franklin County recorders have been happy with that format.</div>
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<div>The full legal should be something like: "Unit X of ABC
Condominium, according to Condominium Survey Map and Plans,
___________ County Auditor’s File No. _____________, and
according to that Condominium Declaration recorded under
___________ County Auditor’s File No. ____________, both
recorded on Month Day, Year, ___________ County, State of
Washington." </div>
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<div>The mention of percentage interests in the common elements
or of assigned limited common elements are optional for
Condominium Act condo units (post 7/1/90) and required,
together with a statement of the intended use of the unit, for
Horizontal Property Regimes Act units, per RCW 64.32.120. </div>
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<div>As others have stated, I am confused by the need to add the
unit number to the legal description. I wonder if there wasn't
a scrivener's error in the original deed?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Eric
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Abbreviated
legal isn't required to make the deed effective but
the County Recorder might refuse to record, if the
full legal isn't on page one of the deed. First page
either needs the full legal, or an abbreviated legal
with a reference to the page with the full legal.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
am a little concerned that the "full legal" from a
prior deed didn't include the unit number already.
That makes me wonder what is going on there. A condo
legal description also typically mentions percentage
interest in common elements and might also mention a
separate parking space and/or storage unit.
Obviously I can't tell from this vantage point.</span></p>
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I was asked a reet question by a family
where father wants to quitclaim his share
of a condo to his son. I answered the
question but I think they wanted to do
their own deed and I did not want to take
on the work for a few dollars. I gave him
a form of qcd and based on my perusal of
the deed that had granted title to the two
of them I told them to use the same legal,
which differed from all I could l see in
inserting the unit number “unit 415” at
the front of the full legal. The deed was
a pretty thing with a caption and in the
caption it also suggested an abbreviation
for the legal, which seemed to me
inessential to validity. Anyone heartily
disagree and I will let them know that
perhaps they should consult a real
lawyer. </span></p>
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