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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/2015 5:54 PM, Spencer Stromberg
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      <div dir="ltr">I'm sorry to be a contrarian, but I believe the
        abbreviated legal description is required regardless of whether
        the full legal is on the first page or not.</div>
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    <b>This has not been my experience.  In the caption, where the
      "summary legal description" is usually placed, I have always
      simply copied the full legal description from the body of the
      Deed, & I have never had such a Deed denied recordation on
      that basis in a wide variety of counties in WA.</b><b>  Mind you,
      I'm not saying that one can omit a legal description in the
      caption --- only that the legal description need not be the
      summary or abbreviated description --- the full description will
      suffice (& that providing it eliminates the risk of providing
      an erroneous summary description where the full description on the
      Deed is correct).</b><br>
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      <div dir="ltr">  RCW 65.04.045(1)(f) requires that the deed
        include on the first page: "An abbreviated legal description of
        the property, and for purposes of this subsection, “abbreviated
        legal description of the property” means lot, block, plat, or
        section, township, range, and quarter/quarter section, and
        reference to the document page number where the full legal
        description is included, if applicable;" 
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        <div>In my experience, the abbreviated legal for a condo unit
          would be "Unit X of ABC Condominium." At least the Spokane and
          Franklin County recorders have been happy with that format.</div>
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        <div>The full legal should be something like: "Unit X of ABC
          Condominium, according to Condominium Survey Map and Plans,
          ___________ County Auditor’s File No. _____________, and
          according to that Condominium Declaration recorded under
          ___________ County Auditor’s File No. ____________, both
          recorded on Month Day, Year, ___________ County, State of
          Washington." </div>
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        <div>The mention of percentage interests in the common elements
          or of assigned limited common elements are optional for
          Condominium Act condo units (post 7/1/90) and required,
          together with a statement of the intended use of the unit, for
          Horizontal Property Regimes Act units, per RCW 64.32.120.   </div>
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        <div>As others have stated, I am confused by the need to add the
          unit number to the legal description. I wonder if there wasn't
          a scrivener's error in the original deed?</div>
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                      Spencer A. W. Stromberg
                      <div>Sullivan Stromberg, PLLC</div>
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                      <div>Spokane, WA 99201-3914</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Eric
          Nelsen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Abbreviated
                    legal isn't required to make the deed effective but
                    the County Recorder might refuse to record, if the
                    full legal isn't on page one of the deed. First page
                    either needs the full legal, or an abbreviated legal
                    with a reference to the page with the full legal.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
                    am a little concerned that the "full legal" from a
                    prior deed didn't include the unit number already.
                    That makes me wonder what is going on there. A condo
                    legal description also typically mentions percentage
                    interest in common elements and might also mention a
                    separate parking space and/or storage unit.
                    Obviously I can't tell from this vantage point.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sincerely,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric
                    C. Nelsen</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">SAYRE
                    LAW OFFICES, PLLC</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1320
                    University St</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Seattle
                    WA  98101-2837</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">phone
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:206-625-0092"
                      value="+12066250092" target="_blank">206-625-0092</a></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">fax
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                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Silver<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2015 4:05
                          PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> WSBA RPPT Probate & Trust
                          Discussion Forum<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] condo question</span></p>
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                              I was asked a reet question by a family
                              where father wants to quitclaim his share
                              of a condo to his son.  I answered the
                              question but I think they wanted to do
                              their own deed and I did not want to take
                              on the work for a few dollars.  I gave him
                              a form of qcd and based on my perusal of
                              the deed that had granted title to the two
                              of them I told them to use the same legal,
                              which differed from all I could l see in
                              inserting the unit number “unit 415” at
                              the front of the full legal.  The deed was
                              a pretty thing with a caption and in the
                              caption it also suggested an abbreviation
                              for the legal, which seemed to me
                              inessential to validity.  Anyone heartily
                              disagree and I will let them know that
                              perhaps they should consult a real
                              lawyer.    </span></p>
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                              SILVER, LLM TAXATION, NYU<br>
                              ATTORNEY AT LAW<br>
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