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    <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Even though judicial
      officers (judges and commissioners) are not supposed to conduct
      their own evidence-gathering investigations concerning petitions
      presented to them, some nonetheless do so.  The petitioner's sworn
      petition states that the death occurred, and it normally states
      that the proposed PR had never been convicted of a felony or crime
      of moral turpitude.  Nonetheless, in Pierce County the court
      commissioners require petitioners to fill out a little form (that
      is never filed) with the proposed PR's birthdate, and the
      courtroom clerk (or the jurist) then checks a criminal records
      database concerning the proposed PR before appointing him or her. 
      Jurists have been disciplined</font> for conducting their own
    evidence-gathering investigations, and I find no rule that supports
    the database investigations, but they do it anyway.<br>
    <br>
    I assume that the criminal records database that they check is not
    freely available to the attorneys who represent the proposed PR. 
    And I don't believe that CR 11 requires an attorney to do a criminal
    background check of a probate client who swears to having no
    criminal record.<br>
    <br>
    ER 1101(4) states that the Evidence Rules are inapplicable to
    protect order proceedings, so jurist apparently may then check civil
    and criminal databases, but the rule requires that the jurist
    disclose the database information to the parties.  The Evidence
    Rules and the Code of Judicial Conduct are applicable to probate
    estate proceedings.<br>
    <br>
    Doug Schafer, attorney in Tacoma.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/2015 11:40 AM, Peterson, Eileen
      wrote:<br>
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            Book","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m very
            unclear why any of this happening.  Presumably, the Petition
            (sworn under oath) indicates the date of death.   I don’t
            think that it is required, but for some reason the Court is
            exercising its discretion – but why?  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                S. Peterson<br>
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                253 620 6565<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf
                  Of </b>Joyce S. Schwensen<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 05, 2015 11:32 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Starting probate without
                death certificate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            That is what I’ve been asked to do by the commissioner in
            King County on several occasions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 05, 2015 10:58 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:cole-gilday@stanwoodlaw.net">cole-gilday@stanwoodlaw.net</a>;
                'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Starting probate without
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            am curious.  How does one “present” something to the court
            but not “file” it?  Hold it up for the judge and say “looky
            here?”  Hand it up to the judge and then get it back?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert R. Cole<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 5, 2015 10:27 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Starting probate without
                death certificate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Snohomish County Commissioners want the
            death certificated presented (but not filed).<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Very Truly Yours,<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Robert R. Cole<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Law Office of Cole & Gilday, P.C. <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                  style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Rockwell;color:red">PLEASE
                  NOTE THAT OUR OFFICE WILL BE CLOSED FROM DECEMBER 20,
                  2014 THROUGH JANUARY 4, 2015.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><i> </i><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">10101 - 270th St. NW <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">P.O. Box 249 <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Stanwood, WA 98292 <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">(360) 629-2900 (Telephone) <o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">(360) 629-0220 (Fax) <o:p></o:p></p>
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            style="punctuation-wrap:hanging;text-autospace:ideograph-other"><span
              style="position:relative;top:0pt;mso-text-raise:0pt">On
              1/5/2015 9:06 AM, Thomas M. Culbertson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Looks like
              King County may be the only one where the question is even
              asked.  Don’t forget you can file in any county, generally
              by mail, so if you anticipate problems locally, file
              somewhere else.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><img id="_x0000_i1025"
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                height="2" width="327"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">THOMAS
                  M. CULBERTSON </span></b><b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></b><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
              </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Lukins
                & Annis, PS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">717
                W. Sprague Ave, Suite 1600, Spokane, WA 99201</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">(509)
                455-9555</span><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> I
              </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> fax
                (509) 363-2500</span><span
                style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> 
                I </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:tculbertson@lukins.com"><span
                    style="font-size:10.0pt">tculbertson@lukins.com</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
              </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eden Rubenstein Toner<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 02, 2015 1:27 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Starting probate without
                  death certificate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
              was asked for it the last time I opened a probate in King
              County.  I didn’t have it, and was able to open the
              probate anyway, but in the future I’m going to try to have
              it before going to court.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                style="font-family:"Andalus","serif";border:none
                windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Eden Rubenstein Toner</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";border:none
                windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Attorney at Law</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";border:none
                windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">1600-B SW Dash Point Road,
                #163</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";border:none
                windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Federal Way, WA 98023</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";border:none
                windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">phone 206-953-4485</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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                style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Andalus","serif";border:none
                windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                  Andrew Hay [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net">mailto:andrewhay@washingtonlaw.net</a>]
                  <br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 31, 2014 2:31 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Starting probate without
                  death certificate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hello
              Listmates</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I have a
              case where a lady is in her last days and has a closing
              pending.  If she does not survive to closing I may have to
              open a probate before the death certificate is available. 
              Has anyone had similar problem?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Andrew Hay</b><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>Hay & Swann PLLC</b><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">201 South 34th Street<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Tacoma, WA  98418<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Phone: (253) 272-2400<o:p></o:p></p>
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