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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The title company rep who presented last week seemed to indicate that this wouldn’t work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I guess, even if the form allows for it, that the title companies might not like it worries me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">His contact info is
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="color:black">Dwight Bickel
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="color:black">Fidelity National Title Group
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</span><span style="color:blue">Dwight.Bickel@fntg.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Heather<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>jeffrey winter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 11, 2014 4:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] TOD Deeds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Not contesting your conclusion, Heather, but I believe a form put forth at the Mid-Year RPPT meeting materials allowed for contingent beneficiaries (although
I don't believe it specifically addressed disclaimer)...is that form in error?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#0070C0">Jeffrey D. Winter</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#0070C0">Law Office of Jeffrey D. Winter, P.S.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
<a href="mailto:heatherd@westseattlelaw.com">heatherd@westseattlelaw.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 00:16:58 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] TOD Deeds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The consensus of the panel on this subject at the recent Estate Planning CLE was that you cannot do what you propose effectively. As I understand it, all grantees must be given
simultaneous and equal interests and cannot be survival contingencies in the document. Similarly, you could not give ½ to son and ½ to son’s children equally.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Heather</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a href="mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Neumiller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] TOD Deeds<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Listservers: Has anyone done the following yet?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Client wants to use a Transfer on Death Deed to transfer residence to Able, and if Able is deceased or disclaims the residence (RCW 64.80.110 says the beneficiary may disclaim), then residence
goes to Baker. RCW 64.80.100(1)(b) says the transfer “lapses” if the beneficiary fails to survive the transferor. Does the collective mind of the listserv believe that it would be an effective TODD if I put: “To Able, and if Able either fails to survive
me or chooses to disclaim Able’s beneficiary interest in this Revocable Transfer Upon Death Deed pursuant to RCW 64.80.110, then to Baker.”??? Thanks for your input.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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