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<b>Roger --- An attorney my file & serve a Notice of Intention
to Withdraw, & if no objection is timely filed, the withdrawal
becomes effective on its stated effective date (so long as proper
notice was had --- I file & serve mine by mail & use a
14-day notice period).</b><b><br>
</b><b><br>
</b><b>A PR may resign & I believe but do not know that that
relieves him or her of liability from the effective date of his or
her withdrawal --- I haven't had a case to test that.</b><b><br>
</b><b><br>
</b><b>But for a PR to be relieved of liability for the estate &
particularly for his or her actions & omissions during his or
her administration of the estate, the PR, according to my
understanding, must be discharged, either formally by the Court or
as a result of having filed a valid Decl of Completion (with the
relevant Receipts & Waivers or a Notice of Filing Thereof
etc., as appropriate). Discharge by the Court, at least in my
experience, can come in two ways:</b><b><br>
</b>
<ul>
<li><b>The Court's entry of a Decree of Final Distribution in
which the PR is expressly discharged (ie, to close the
estate).<br>
</b></li>
<li><b>The Court's entry of an Order Approving Resignation &
Interim Report & Accounting of PR in which the PR is
expressly discharged (ie, a resignation before the estate
closes, meaning a successor PR will need to be appointed to
complete the estate's administration).<br>
</b></li>
</ul>
<p><b>In either of those cases, the PR will have reported &
accounted to the Court for his or her acts, & the Court
discharges the PR regarding them --- but not for undisclosed or
fraudulent acts, for which the PR remains liable (& the
estate may thereafter be reopened, if it has been closed, to
address the prior PR's nondisclosure or fraud, of which cases
I've had several --- absent that or the discovery of new estate
assets or notice problems regarding the closing, I don't believe
an estate may be re-opened, the Final Decree truly being final).</b><b><br>
</b></p>
<p><b>At least that's my understanding of the situation.</b><b><br>
</b></p>
<p><b>I've had numbers of PR resignations, including myself as a PR,
& Comm'r V has been quite clear that if the PR wants to be
relieved of responsibility, it takes more than a simple
resignation --- it takes a formal discharge, & the only way
I know how to obtain that is discussed above.</b></p>
<p><b>Perhaps others on the list-serve have other experiences or
understandings?<br>
<br>
</b></p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/25/2014 11:30 AM, Roger Hawkes
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,
Richard. Is it possible for a PR to ‘withdraw’, like a
lawyer. Just quit?? Or is some sort of discharge required?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Roger Hawkes,
WSBA # 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">19909
Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoreline, WA
98155<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a
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href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com"><span
style="color:blue">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">206 367 5000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Fax is 206
367 4005<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Richard Wills
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:richardwills@washington-probate.com">mailto:richardwills@washington-probate.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 11:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] No-asset insolvent
intestate estate, minor child - need a GAL? Who pays?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>Yes ---
& remains liable for the estate.</b><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/25/2014 10:10 AM, Roger Hawkes
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Interesting
thought. No case will be pending, but the appointed PR is
still the PR??</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Roger
Hawkes, WSBA # 5173</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">19909
Ballinger Way NE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoreline,
WA 98155</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">206 367
5000</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Fax is 206
367 4005</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
Richard Wills [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:richardwills@washington-probate.com">mailto:richardwills@washington-probate.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] No-asset insolvent
intestate estate, minor child - need a GAL? Who pays?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>That,
however, does not discharge the appointed PR.</b><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/24/2014 3:47 PM, Roger Hawkes
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">If you
withdraw, the clerk will eventually dismiss the probate
for non prosecution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Roger
Hawkes, WSBA # 5173</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">19909
Ballinger Way NE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoreline,
WA 98155</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com">www.hawkeslawfirm.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">206 367
5000</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Fax is
206 367 4005</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
Eric Nelsen [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com">mailto:Eric@sayrelawoffices.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 24, 2014 3:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WSBA Probate & Trust listserve (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com</a>)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] No-asset insolvent
intestate estate, minor child - need a GAL? Who
pays?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">No-asset estate, just personal effects
of nominal value. Surviving spouse and five kids, one of
whom is 13 years old. Received a bunch of creditor claims
totalling about $10,000.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Only opened the probate to investigate
a wrongful death claim, which was a no-go, so now we need
to shut it down with an accounting and final hearing to
approve no distribution, no payment to creditors.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">RCW 11.76.080(2) seems in indicate that
appointment of GAL for the minor child is mandatory. Is
that right? If so, who is going to pay the GAL? The Estate
has literally nothing--no cash, no vehicle, just some
clothes and other effects of no value.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Eric C.
Nelsen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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