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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>PC needs someone to advise--she is successor trustee on RLT for couple who have both died.  PC in Indianola. Thanks, Marcia<br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: jgrant@accima.com<br>To: wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com<br>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:02:40 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Excise tax and penalties for decedent - grant county<br><br>


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<div>Not really.  It is a small value and we are only coming up with about 
$350 even after adding all the interest and penalties.  It is just 
irritating.</div>
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<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a title="white@livengoodlaw.com" href="mailto:white@livengoodlaw.com">John White</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 21, 2014 11:49 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com" href="mailto:wsbapt@lists.wsbarppt.com">WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv</a> 
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Excise tax and penalties for decedent - grant 
county</div></div></div>
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worth doing an adjudication and incorporating into the order explicit vesting of 
the real property in the husband?  We have done something similar in Grant 
County and others so that there is a recordable document.</span></p>
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wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces@lists.wsbarppt.com] 
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Grant<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 21, 2014 11:32 
AM<br><b>To:</b> wsbar; wsbar trust<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Excise tax and 
penalties for decedent - grant county</span></p></div></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black;">H&W owned real 
property.  W died in 2009.  H died 2014.  Son is PR.  Pr has 
an P&S for a new buyer. PR is happy to pay the normal excise tax on this 
sale.</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black;">Title company is 
allowing sale of W’s interest based on our affidavit to clear title, so no 
probate needed for W.  </span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black;">Grant County indicates 
that we have to pay additional excise tax and penalties and interest from 2009 
til now on the transfer from W to H... and they base that on a sale price = 1/2 
of the assessed value.</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black;">there was no sale back 
in 2009.  If we did a probate of W’s estate, they would have to file a PR 
deed without any excise tax.  It isn’t enough of an excise tax to justify 
doing a probate.</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black;">any other counties 
doing this?</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri","sans-serif";COLOR:black;">Joshua F. Grant, 
PS<br>Attorney at Law<br>P. O. Box 619<br>Wilbur, WA 99185<br>tel 509 647 
5578<br>fax 509 647 2734</span></p></div></div></div></div>

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