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<b>I was recently but am no longer involved in a probate in which
Decedent's husband was convicted of having murdered the D, with
the conviction having been upheld on appeal. According to D's
Will, D's estate went to the H, which he lost due to the slayer
statute, & then half to D's sibs & half to D's H's
deceased sister's four adult daughters. The issue was whether the
latter would take their half or forfeit it under the slayer
statute, resulting in D's sibs getting all of the estate.<br>
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I consulted with Carol Vaughn, & as I recall, she told me that
she was recently involved in a slayer case with assets ostensibly
passing on default due to the slayer statute to one or more of the
slayer's relatives, & in which the King County Court had held
that the estate's passing to the slayer's relatives benefited the
slayer & thus ordered the relatives to be considered as having
predeceased, & that that ruling was upheld on appeal.</b><b>
Therefore, case law appears to exist to overturn the horrible
result of which you speak. No, I don't know the name of the case,
although it was recent.</b><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/6/2014 10:18 AM, Roger Hawkes
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Be aware a
recent Supremes decision interprets this to mean the child
of the slayer then takes the inheritance because of the anti
lapse statute; I think that is a horrible result, but the
reasoning is sound; a legislative fix is in order, I hope.
Does anyone know whether one is in the works?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Roger Hawkes,
WSBA # 5173<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">19909
Ballinger Way NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Shoreline, WA
98155<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">206 367 5000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Fax is 206
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Jill H. Sasser [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jill.sasser@landerholm.com">mailto:jill.sasser@landerholm.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] Negligent mother and
wrongful death insurance monies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dalynne:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
I would take a look at RCW 11.84 and case law citing this
statute, which might address your situation. I think your
issue might be whether the mother was negligent vs. willful
and unlawful (read the definition of a slayer in RCW
11.84.010).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Black","sans-serif";color:black">11.84.030<br>
Slayer or abuser deemed to predecease decedent.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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moz-do-not-send="true" name="11.84.030"><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">The
slayer or abuser shall be deemed to have predeceased the
decedent as to property which would have passed from the
decedent or his or her estate to the slayer or abuser
under the statutes of descent and distribution or have
been acquired by statutory right as surviving spouse or
surviving domestic partner or under any agreement made
with the decedent under the provisions of RCW </span></a><span
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style="color:#2B674D">26.16.120</span></a> as it now
exists or is hereafter amended.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dalynne Singleton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2014 8:41 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I do not do criminal work but do remember,
in law school, that someone who murders another cannot collect
on life insurance even if the beneficiary because of his/her
bad acts. If the decedent’s estate is intestate, I would
think the same would apply to distribution of the proceeds,
nothing to the person even if they were to take under the
intestacy statutes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have a situation where I opened a probate
on behalf of a six year old who died as a result of a once car
traffic collision and was appointed Administrator. His
biological mother was driving. I am co-counsel with an
attorney who represents the father (divorced parents) and he
is deciding whether to bring claims against (1) municipality
on roadway design; and/or (2) negligent mother. We have hired
an expert to review the scene of the collision and whether the
2 potential defendants are negligent or liable for the death
of this young child.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mother’s insurer has offered 500k policy
limits on settlement under UM/UIM policy for the son’s death.
There is no PIP because son died at scene of collision.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Since I am the administrator, I will be
researching the issue of whether the mother, if found
negligent in the son’s death, is entitled to intestate
proceeds from the son’s estate and if yes, to what % ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If anyone has faced this and has a brief
which would get me started in my research, I would appreciate
any input to assist.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I will share my research with the listserve
if there is interest… thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Dalynne
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