[WSBAPT] Notarized Will required to admit to probate vs valid > Will

Fri Oct 2 11:51:38 PDT 2026

Makes sense.  Thanks for the input.  I have always been a little sketched
out by signature only wills without being able to verify that the witnesses
ever really existed..

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That's what I do Sara.

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On Fri, Oct 2, 2026 at 10:43 AM Sara Longley <sara.longley at ivylawpllc.com>
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As a solo attorney, it is far easier to bring in one person to witness than
two.  I usually act as the second witness for the Will, and if the client
is doing Powers of Attorney I can be the notary for those documents.  The
alternative is asking the client to bring disinterested witnesses, which
usually involves a scheduling nightmare and quite a bit of un-billable
time.

Sara

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For us the downside is tying up the time of three people in the office for
every Will signing.  When we have multiple attorneys with overlapping Will
signing appointments, we don’t have enough staff to cover two witnesses and
the notary.

Amy Lewis, Attorney
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Why don’t you notarize?  What is the downside?

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No crushing required! Looks good to me. So now we’ll both be crushed if
someone finds a flaw.

Sincerely,

Eric

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*On Behalf Of *Eva Luchini
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Will

I do not notarize my Wills.  I do a declaration of witnesses of which I am
one and my assistant is the other and it should be  *SELF PROVING PURSUANT
TO RCW 5.50.030, 11.20.020*

Here’s what it looks like, below.

Feel free to crush my soul and tell me I’ve been doing it wrong.

*DECLARATION OF WITNESSES*

*(SELF PROVING PURSUANT TO RCW 5.50.030, 11.20.020)*

Each of the undersigned declares that, on the date written below and, in
our presence, [CLIENT] declared this document to be their Will and signed
it as the Testator. At the Testator’s request and in the presence of the
Testator and each other, we are signing as attesting witnesses. The
Testator appears to be over 18 years old, of sound and disposing mind and
memory, competent in every respect to make a Will, and not under any
restraint, duress, or undue influence. Each of us is over 18 years old and
competent to be an attesting witness. This declaration is made at the
request of [CLIENT] for the purpose of proving the foregoing Will.

Each of us further declares under penalty of perjury under the laws of the
State of Washington that the foregoing declaration is true and correct.

Signed at __, Washington, on____________, 2026.

Witness Signature

Witness Signature

Witness Printed Name

Witness Printed Name

Camas, WA 98607

Camas, WA 98607

Witness Address

Witness Address

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