[WSBAPT] WSBAPT Digest, Vol 133, Issue 26 North Dakota Mineral Rights

Karen Cobb kcobb at freybuck.com
Wed Oct 29 14:07:00 PDT 2025 

I am working with an attorney on one of these right now.  The matter is not yet complete, but he has been responsive, easy to work with and seem very capable. 

https://www.dahlelawnorthdakota.com/north-dakota-probate/ancillary-probate-north-dakota/


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Today's Topics:

   1. North Dakota (Corey Brock)
   2. Re: King County banks - blocked account orders? (Joshua McKarcher)
   3. King County banks - blocked account order (Dalynne Singleton)
   4. Re: King County banks - blocked account order (Joshua McKarcher)


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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 00:48:10 +0000
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Looking for an attorney in Mountrail County, North Dakota To assist with a transferring mineral rights/probate.

Thanks

Corey



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Brock Law Firm, P.S.
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:37:39 +0000
From: Joshua McKarcher <josh at mckarcherlaw.com>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account orders?
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I will ask for myself and what must be several others who are wondering the same:

In what kinds of circumstances have you needed s blocked account for a probate or trust matter? Are these always court ordered? Or do you and a PR client simply know/agree it's best and thus implement one?

Any answers at all will be illuminating, if you have time to reply.

Until this exchange among Eric, Brent and Dalynne, I had never heard of a blocked account that someone sets up intentionally.

(Blocked or frozen accounts made me think drug money or mafia and the feds freezing or seizing an account.)

Google and Investopedia clued me in:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.investopedia.com_terms_b_blocked-2Daccount.asp-23-3A-7E-3Atext-3DA-2520blocked-2520account-252C-2520generally-2520speaking-2Cper-2520week-2520for-2520personal-2520expenses&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=oN3JkEDGkupTWuVes3l0RZhfKP4xFyO5dcDA8kNgBps&m=9PilyjB2Z7xzENOdAfvKLjStXpXfm1APdvGyJYzX3IdYGKwR1J3-SvMhhiy-lv-R&s=I7wJCKMG6B7R9hlP1SSN6Sq3ozcAFNb7chtEC5AiMyo&e=

Learn something every day! I love it!

Best, Josh

Joshua D. McKarcher
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Subject: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account orders?

I have an estate where I think I?m going to need to set up a blocked account, and I haven?t done one in 10+ years. Does anyone have more recent experience?are there banks that refuse to deal with blocked accounts, would a credit union work better, any thoughts or war stories or suggestions?

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
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Seattle WA 98144-3909
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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 14:38:40 +0000
From: Dalynne Singleton <dalynne at glgmail.com>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account order
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Joshua, not a day goes by that I don't learn something new.  It is one reason I decided to handle probate, estates and TEDRA cases.

It is rare, but I have had court orders in probate for blocked accounts.  One recently was for a wayward PR who was threatening to take monies out of the account in distribution to herself, fired her atty and the court stepped in at an emergency hearing before the motion to remove and replace the PR was heard.  In addition, when I have probate monies in my firm's trust account and they are sizeable (usually from wrongful death settlement subject to RCW 4.20 or from a home sale), I sometimes get agreement between the potential heirs/beneficiaries and PR/Admin. to move to a blocked trust account which earns interest while we deal with TEDRA or allocation of wrongful death money issues.

Dalynne Singleton
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Gourley Law Group
Snohomish Escrow/The Exchange Connection
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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Joshua McKarcher
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 5:38 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account orders?

I will ask for myself and what must be several others who are wondering the same:

In what kinds of circumstances have you needed s blocked account for a probate or trust matter? Are these always court ordered? Or do you and a PR client simply know/agree it's best and thus implement one?

Any answers at all will be illuminating, if you have time to reply.

Until this exchange among Eric, Brent and Dalynne, I had never heard of a blocked account that someone sets up intentionally.

(Blocked or frozen accounts made me think drug money or mafia and the feds freezing or seizing an account.)

Google and Investopedia clued me in:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.investopedia.com_terms_b_blocked-2Daccount.asp-23-3A-7E-3Atext-3DA-2520blocked-2520account-252C-2520generally-2520speaking-2Cper-2520week-2520for-2520personal-2520expenses&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=oN3JkEDGkupTWuVes3l0RZhfKP4xFyO5dcDA8kNgBps&m=9PilyjB2Z7xzENOdAfvKLjStXpXfm1APdvGyJYzX3IdYGKwR1J3-SvMhhiy-lv-R&s=I7wJCKMG6B7R9hlP1SSN6Sq3ozcAFNb7chtEC5AiMyo&e=

Learn something every day! I love it!

Best, Josh

Joshua D. McKarcher
McKarcher Law PLLC
537 6th Street
Clarkston, WA 99403
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(509) 758-3314 (fax)
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Subject: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account orders?

I have an estate where I think I'm going to need to set up a blocked account, and I haven't done one in 10+ years. Does anyone have more recent experience-are there banks that refuse to deal with blocked accounts, would a credit union work better, any thoughts or war stories or suggestions?

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
1417 31st Ave South
Seattle WA 98144-3909
206-625-0092
eric at sayrelawoffices.com<mailto:eric at sayrelawoffices.com>

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Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 16:39:21 +0000
From: Joshua McKarcher <josh at mckarcherlaw.com>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account order
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Absolutely love your first paragraph and could not agree more!

Excellent summary. So in this example -- "agreement between the potential heirs/beneficiaries and PR/Admin. to move to a blocked trust account which earns interest while we deal with TEDRA or allocation of wrongful death money issues" -- does the PR or trustee ultimately open the account at the bank, I assume?

Is it basically that person opening an account but agreeing with the institution that the institution is not to accept their ordinary withdrawal instructions or honor checks until some other contingency is met that THEN authorizes withdrawal or direct distribution to some third party?

Fascinating!

Joshua D. McKarcher
McKarcher Law PLLC
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Subject: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account order

Joshua, not a day goes by that I don?t learn something new.  It is one reason I decided to handle probate, estates and TEDRA cases.

It is rare, but I have had court orders in probate for blocked accounts.  One recently was for a wayward PR who was threatening to take monies out of the account in distribution to herself, fired her atty and the court stepped in at an emergency hearing before the motion to remove and replace the PR was heard.  In addition, when I have probate monies in my firm?s trust account and they are sizeable (usually from wrongful death settlement subject to RCW 4.20 or from a home sale), I sometimes get agreement between the potential heirs/beneficiaries and PR/Admin. to move to a blocked trust account which earns interest while we deal with TEDRA or allocation of wrongful death money issues.

Dalynne Singleton
Dalynne Singleton
Gourley Law Group
Snohomish Escrow/The Exchange Connection
1002 10th Street / PO Box 1091
Snohomish, WA 98291
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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Joshua McKarcher
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 5:38 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account orders?

I will ask for myself and what must be several others who are wondering the same:

In what kinds of circumstances have you needed s blocked account for a probate or trust matter? Are these always court ordered? Or do you and a PR client simply know/agree it's best and thus implement one?

Any answers at all will be illuminating, if you have time to reply.

Until this exchange among Eric, Brent and Dalynne, I had never heard of a blocked account that someone sets up intentionally.

(Blocked or frozen accounts made me think drug money or mafia and the feds freezing or seizing an account.)

Google and Investopedia clued me in:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.investopedia.com_terms_b_blocked-2Daccount.asp-23-3A-7E-3Atext-3DA-2520blocked-2520account-252C-2520generally-2520speaking-2Cper-2520week-2520for-2520personal-2520expenses&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=oN3JkEDGkupTWuVes3l0RZhfKP4xFyO5dcDA8kNgBps&m=9PilyjB2Z7xzENOdAfvKLjStXpXfm1APdvGyJYzX3IdYGKwR1J3-SvMhhiy-lv-R&s=I7wJCKMG6B7R9hlP1SSN6Sq3ozcAFNb7chtEC5AiMyo&e=

Learn something every day! I love it!

Best, Josh

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McKarcher Law PLLC
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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> on behalf of Eric Nelsen <eric at sayrelawoffices.com<mailto:eric at sayrelawoffices.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2025 10:52 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv (wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>) <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: [WSBAPT] King County banks - blocked account orders?

I have an estate where I think I?m going to need to set up a blocked account, and I haven?t done one in 10+ years. Does anyone have more recent experience?are there banks that refuse to deal with blocked accounts, would a credit union work better, any thoughts or war stories or suggestions?

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
1417 31st Ave South
Seattle WA 98144-3909
206-625-0092
eric at sayrelawoffices.com<mailto:eric at sayrelawoffices.com>

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