[WSBAPT] Off-Topic, but not Off-Putting

Mon Apr 29 13:29:39 PDT 2024

Thank you for sending this......it was very much top of mind at a recent
conference of bar leaders that I attended this past month.

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On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 1:16 PM Eric Nelsen <eric at sayrelawoffices.com>
wrote:

> I have nothing against the ActiveWords folks—I am responding here because
> the current AI hype is a huge problem, and I try to take opportunities
> where I find them to warn people off.
>
> First, I highly recommend searching for UW computational linguistics
> professor Emily M. Bender, and her “AI Hype” postings on social media,
> YouTube, and elsewhere. She has testified in Olympia and elsewhere, and of
> course published professionally, on the hype and the social dangers of
> incorporating so-called “AI” into computers and systems doing substantive
> work.
>
> https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6308275/emily-m-bender/
>
> Important points:
>
> “Artificial intelligence” is a marketing term and is not a coherent
> concept or a particular technology.
>
> The current AI hype in the legal field is largely about large language
> model (LLM) systems like ChatGPT that, in response to an input, generate
> text. The generated text is determined on a statistical basis derived from
> the contents of the database of text scraped by the creators of the LLM.
>
> LLM responses are *inherently untrustworthy* because they are text
> intended *to look like* a plausible response. They are no more than that.
> It is basic to the structure and design of LLMs that they will generate *plausible-looking
> but false* responses a nonzero number of times to a question. This is not
> a correctable problem because the design of LLMs is founded on this
> statistical structure. Prof. Bender has called LLMs “stochastic parrots”
> because they imitate speech on a randomized (but statistically nuanced)
> basis.
>
> When an LLM generates a response that looks like a "true" answer to a
> question, it only means that the statistical process generated a
> plausible-looking answer that we, on the basis of other information, and
> identify as true. If the exact same question is input a second time, the
> LLM will generate another plausible-looking answer that may or may not be
> as “true” as the other answer.
>
> Thanks for taking the time to read this...
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> Eric C. Nelsen
>
> Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
>
> 1417 31st Ave South
>
> Seattle WA 98144-3909
>
> 206-625-0092
>
> eric at sayrelawoffices.com
>
>
>
> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Dave Culbertson
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2024 12:26 PM
> *To:* solo-and-small-practice-section at list.wsba.org;
> creditor-debtor-section at list.wsba.org; wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com;
> wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com
> *Cc:* Business Law Section <business-law-section at list.wsba.org>
> *Subject:* [WSBAPT] Off-Topic, but not Off-Putting
>
>
>
> Hi, Folks.
>
> I use a software called ActiveWords. It’s not exactly what this query is
> about, but in case you are curious it allows you to type a couple of keys
> of your choosing *anywhere you are working on your computer* and it will
> go find and pop open a folder, file, website, or program instantaneously.
> It saves me a bunch of time and I highly recommend it. Happy to talk about
> it more if anybody’s interested.
>
> BUT that’s not the immediate point. The founder of ActiveWords (they have
> spectacular customer support, BTW—that’s how I know “the founder”) is
> working on another project for lawfirms, and asked me this question below.
> So I’m seeing if the Hive-Mind has some answers:
>
> ___________________________________
>
> [From Buzz Bruggeman, AW]
>
> I have been advising/mentoring an AI legal tech startup here in Seattle.
> They have some very, very clever and powerful technology.
>
> Key focus right now is on firms that have/do...
>
> a.              Doing primarily motor vehicle accident PI work.
> b.              10+ lawyers
> c.             30 new cases a month
>
>
> Do you know say the names of firms that match the criteria above? Maybe
> firms you refer cases to?
>
> Trying to use Google to search for firms that even tell you the number of
> lawyers in a firm is impossible.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Dave Culbertson
>
>
>
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