[WSBAPT] Merrill Lynch wanting death certificate of first nominated POA

Joshua McKarcher josh at mckarcherlaw.com
Fri Oct 6 12:31:44 PDT 2023


This is classic Merrill Lynch at this point. I’m so sorry.

They, like lots of life insurance companies, have the ability to confirm death from public records or even newspaper obituaries.

They are not entitled to a non-publicly available document that the second agent may not have access to or rights to obtain.

I would ask them to show their legal entitlement to that document or anything more than the certification required and their legal exposure for damages incurred from their noncompliance at this point. And rapidly.

Good luck. Again, I’m so sorry.

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Yes - they asked for that, and it was completed....and now they want the death certificate of the primary.  I always try to be on the side of angels first and work with these terrible companies because of the real life people who are impacted by their fear of litigation.

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On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 10:32 AM Heather de Vrieze <heatherd at westseattlelaw.com<mailto:heatherd at westseattlelaw.com>> wrote:

I do not have a contact there, but have you tried submitting a certification of the POA as contemplated under 11.125.430?

I would start there.

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List Members -

I have a client who has become incapacitated due to medical reasons. Her first nominated agent in fact has passed away. The second nominated is trying to work with the people at Merrill Lynch. They are refusing to accept her as the successor POA without a death certificate of the first despite the language stating that the second may serve if the first is unable, unwilling, or unavailable to serve.

Does anyone have a contact within ML that they are willing to share to help smooth the way. My client is about to be discharged from rehab center and needs to be able to pay for care....sadly her POA doesn't have the ability to float any money until she can get access to the Principal's funds.

Brent Williams-Ruth (pronouns: he/him)
Attorney-At-Law

Law Offices of Brent Williams-Ruth, a division of BWR Consulting, PLLC

Physical Address: 500 S 336th Street, Suite 214; Federal Way, WA 98003

**EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY** All mail sent through the USPS should be sent to the following address: PO BOX 3319; Federal Way, WA 98063

Office/Scheduling Phone: (253) 285-7751

Direct: (253) 285-7453

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