[WSBAPT] Hello/responses appreciated asap please

Jane Bitz jbitz at whc-attorneys.com
Wed Mar 1 11:00:25 PST 2023 

Roger: Yes! No prior notice of the petition. I think it must be that provision in the statute that is allowing these under the radar probates to be opened.
Jane.

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Jane: I think you mean without PRIOR NOTICE to the heirs.???

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These stories are a bit hair-raising!

When a person passes and is intestate and more than 40 days have elapsed since the person passed away, it is my understanding that "anyone" can start a probate without notice to the heirs of the decedent.

If we are involved in an intestate situation, we make sure to file the Petition (with appropriate notice and waivers by the other heirs) ASAP.
Jane.

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Not a flipper but not a disinterested party either!!!! It's no wonder attorneys are not well liked.

Diane J. Kiepe

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There is usually a home flipper involved too.

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I had one of these come up with Hood Canal home/real property and what was worse was that I had opened probate in King County with a daughter of decedent and provided notice for a hearing to the other children.  In the meantime, she gets wind of an attorney on the other side of the water who opened probate and wanted to appoint himself as Admin. with a realtor to sell the home.  NO NOTICE was given to my client, a daughter of the decedent.  I called the attorney on what I perceived to be unethical behavior of his not notifying the actual heirs/family of the decedent, and told him if he didn't immediately close his probate, I would inform the court at the hearing of what he had done.  He had provided NO NOTICE to the family whom he knew existed.   He went into ex parte immediately and closed his probate but I now know to watch for this type of behavior.

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Hello/responses appreciated asap please - thanks in advance

FYI,

I am have seen similar situations in Western Washington.

There are a lot of intestate real property situations where there is no apparent heirs so a real estate agent will scout deceased names then check out any real property, to see if here is any occupancy.  If not and no heirs step forward the attorney will  step in file for probate in Ex Parte, assign PR, who then lists the real property for sale with the agent, and then disposes of any personal property of the estate in the home. They pay the attorneys their fees then the agent makes the commission for selling the property, plus any income from the personal property disposition. If an heir steps forward during this process, they drop everything and back off. Seems shady.

I have no idea of this legal or ethical.  Are they just filling a need or is here another way intestate estates should be handled?

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A probate was opened by an individual purporting to be a friend and business connection to decedent.  Individual had an attorney.  Petition indicated no heirs; there is in fact an heir (a daughter) and the attorney even noted, condolences on the death of your father in sending her the Notice of Appointment (SMH).  No notice on hearing was sought for non-intervention powers.  Daughter is willing and able to serve and I think the original petitioner may face claims from the estate for vulnerable adult issues.

I plan to file a motion to remove (in the meantime asking to step down but not hopeful) and want to set it Ex Parte because it literally should take only moments.  Anyone know a reason why ex parte would not be appropriate.

Thanks in advance - what is wrong with people?!

Diane J. Kiepe

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