[WSBAPT] Crazy name situation
Andrekita Silva
ak at seattle-silvalaw.com
Thu Jun 1 18:29:52 PDT 2023
Law Office of
F.ANDREKITA SILVA
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June 1, 2023
Roger, I agree with you. But, I would add social security card to
that list for those who have not been married, divorced, and/ or who
did not change their name upon marriage.
Since your SS# is one of your most important identifiers which appears
on every official document, that is the first document you should
change when you change your name (through a court order or any other
means.)
Forty five years ago, I changed my name by applying for a new social
security card [from Freida Silva to Freida Andrekita Silva.] (I had to
provide proof of my identity & evidence of the new name being used.) I
then changed my name on my passport using my new social security card.
Since then, for all official documents (except my marriage
certificate- which only has Andrekita Silva), I only represent my
first name with the letter “F” .
So for people like me, neither my marriage certificate nor birth
certificate are good proof of my legal name- they are each missing
something.
But I agree with others, EP documents should start with the most
offical name found, then listing all AKA's.
andrekita
Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva
1325 Fourth Avenue, Suite 940
Seattle, Washington 98101-2509
206-224-8288
www.seattle-silvalaw.com[1]
PLEASE NOTE: I’ve moved to a different floor. As of April 20, 2023,
my Suite number is 940 (no longer 2000). My new address is: 1325
Fourth Avenue, Suite 940 Seattle, Washington 98101-2509. All other
contact information remains the same.
Quoting Roger Hawkes <roger at skyvalleylawyers.com>:
> True ‘legal’ names are birth certificates, marriage certificates,
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> drivers license states a legal name. it is not ‘illegal’ to use any
> name unless for some kind of tricky business. But a true legal name
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> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> ON BEHALF OF Melody Tucker Law
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> I would put "Ann Mary Jane Doe" because all of the other names
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> FROM: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Ann Manley
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> Melody- which is the entire name to put under the signature
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> Ann Manley, Esq.
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> The Manley Law Firm, P.S., Inc.
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> On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 11:11 AM Melody Tucker Law
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>> In response to your question, I always include all of the
>> AKA’s (or FKA, if appropriate) for a client, whether it's estate
>> documents, property documents, or anything else. Initially I didn't
>> do that because it was suggested to me that it would be confusing
>> to the reader. However, I found it by omitting an AKA from a
>> document, THAT will be THE name that they require to do the
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>> When I have the client sign the document, I put the entire
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>> Following this method, i have had no problems whatsoever.
>> The only comment I’ve had is that sometimes they call it
>> “overkill”, Watch that too but I would rather have too much than
>> too little and then have an issue with validity of a document.
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>> 206-228-4980 Fax: 425-743-5921
>> website: MelodyTuckerLaw.com
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>> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> on behalf of Philip N. Jones
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>> SENT: Thursday, June 1, 2023 10:55 AM
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>> SUBJECT: Re: [WSBAPT] Crazy name situation
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>> Yes. I would simply start out with Anna Doe and then in
>> the first or second paragraph of the will explain that other
>> variations have appeared from time to time in various official
>> records, and that all such names refer to the same person.
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>> And then when she dies, her probate petition could do the same.
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>> Happens all the time.
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>> FROM: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com[3]
>> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> ON BEHALF OF Ann Manley
>> SENT: Thursday, June 1, 2023 10:32 AM
>> TO: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
>> SUBJECT: [WSBAPT] Crazy name situation
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>> Wife has different names on her birth certificate ("Ann
>> Mary Jane Doe"), passport ("Anna Doe"), green card ("Ann Marie
>> Doe") and drivers license ("Ann Mary Doe"). Most property is tiled
>> in the name of "Anna M. Doe". She prefers "Anna Doe". In her EP
>> documents, can I say "Anna Doe" AKA all other names?
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>> Ann Manley, Esq.
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>> The Manley Law Firm, P.S., Inc.
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>> Seattle, WA 98116
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>> (206)292-3064 / (206)292-3914 fax
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>> www.manleyfirm.com[2]
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>> /THE MANLEY LAW FIRM PRACTICE AREAS INCLUDE
>> BANKRUPTCY*, ESTATE PLANNING, AUTO ACCIDENTS, CIVIL LITIGATION,
>> CONSTRUCTION, COMMERCIAL AND CONTRACT LAW, EMPLOYMENT MATTERS,
>> PERSONAL INJURY, SMALL BUSINESS, UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS, WAGE LOSS AND
>> COMPENSATION CLAIMS/
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>> /* The Manley Law Firm is a Debt Relief Agency. We
>> help people file for bankruptcy relief under the Bankruptcy Code./
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