[WSBAPT] Decedent co-signed student Loan - collection effort

Tue Feb 28 10:41:01 PST 2023

Brent,
If it is a Federal Student Loan (i.e. not refinanced with a private bank), then the obligation to pay dies with you. https://studentaid.gov/manage-loans/forgiveness-cancellation/death
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Nick

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Brent,

Not to provide an excess of confidence but I personally would feel comfortable saying that if there is such a statute, it is up to the creditor to reply with that information within 30 days from your rejection – so many times I have done the other parties work (and in this case would have gone down rabbit holes) but I’m learning better now (sometimes anyway).  If they do provide such a response, you can look directly at their defense – just my 2 cents.

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And that was my thinking - but given all the regulations pertaining to student loans, I was curious if there was a specific statute (like Garn-St. Germaine for mortgages) or case law that carved out an exception to these types of debt.  I have not found one - but that is why I was checking with the brain trust.

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 12:34 PM Mike Zeno <mikez at zenolawfirm.com<mailto:mikez at zenolawfirm.com>> wrote:
Brent, if the estate published notice to creditors, isn’t the claim time-barred?  Sounds like the creditor was not “reasonably ascertainable.”

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Subject: [WSBAPT] Decedent co-signed student Loan - collection effort

Greetings List -

One of my Executors that was about to close her mother's estate (literally just sent the Declaration of Completion to be signed by the Executor) received a collection notice for a student loan that the Decedent co-signed for a friend's daughter.

1) No notice was sent to them as there was no paperwork or any indication prior to this letter that Decedent had co-signed.

2) The collection effort makes no discussion regarding the other signatory of the loan.

Has anyone had experience with this before? I have been looking for any specific reference to Washington case law on this topic but haven't found one on point.

Appreciate any insights.

Brent

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