[WSBAPT] What valuation date should be used?

Philip N. Jones pjones at duffykekel.com
Tue Aug 29 14:59:25 PDT 2023


The six-month rule is an estate tax election, not a valuation/distribution election.
First, check the will or trust for any valuation/distribution language.
Then check the will or trust for language that permits non-pro-rata distributions.  Such language is fairly common.
Then check the will or trust for language that permits distributions without regard to differences in tax basis.  Such language is also fairly common.
But back to your question:  I am not aware of a hard-and-fast rule, but I would tend to not use date of death, or tax basis which is likely the same value.  Given the fact that six years have gone by, those values will be way out of line.  So I would vote for current fair market value.
To state the obvious:  Don't distribute anything unless you can get all (both?) of the siblings to agree in writing to the plan of distribution, being fully informed as to tax basis.  If they can agree on values, fine.  Otherwise, you need appraisals.  Or a carefully worded agreement.
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You can use the 6 months after date of death for valuation tax purposes but if cant agree PR can sell the property and divide proceeds you cant force the heirs to accept property in lieu of cash distribution unless a parcel is conveyed to all heirs entitled thereto as tenants in common so absent an agreement you can't  distribute one parcel to one heir and cash to another based on an arbitrary valuation

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I would think date of death as that will be the recipient's tax basis in the property - Shannon

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Hello All,

I have a fact pattern where multiple pieces of real estate are to be distributed between siblings. Father died 6 years ago and nothing was done. Siblings are in agreement to divide assets 50/50, but want to divy up the properties vs own them together. However there is a disagreement on if the split should be based on date of death values vs current values. Is there a hardline rule on this I am unaware of if the parties cannot agree?

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