[WSBAPT] Execution Requirements of Living Trust

Marcus J. Fry mjf at witherspoonkelley.com
Mon Oct 24 08:38:16 PDT 2022


I would appreciate citation to your position that state statute requires a Will as I to am not familiar with this requirement and cannot locate it under RCW 11.


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There needs to be a pour over Will to be compliant with the state statute requirements of actually having a Will. The Pour Over Will is not just a catch all for effects left out of the Trust.


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I don't think either of those statements are correct.  Revocable trusts need not be notarized, and they are valid and enforceable with or without a pourover wIll, although a pourover will is advisable if any assets are inadvertently left out of the trust.
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Sarah,

The Living Trust needs to be Notarized, but you also need to do a Last Will and Testament " aka a "Pour Over Will" with the Trust, and that requires two Witnesses as per state statute. Otherwise, the Trust will not be valid.


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I seem to recall that a Living Trust does not need to be witnessed or notarized to be effective.  But I cannot find anything in the RCWs that confirms my recollection?   I have a client in hospital who needs to execute her Living Trust this weekend, and she is having difficulty finding a mobile notary.



Can anyone confirm this for me?



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