[WSBAPT] probate expenses directly related to one heir

Eric Nelsen eric at sayrelawoffices.com
Thu May 26 13:59:26 PDT 2022


I would argue that appointment of a PGAL is a statutorily mandated administrative expense and equity does not justify burdening the minor with the entire cost. I think I would be pretty firm about that with the client, and advise that the PR should take that position. I would think that a judge would agree, if the disgruntled heir tried to make a case out of it.

Sincerely,

Eric

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I have this question right now in an estate with three heirs, one a minor who needs a GAL.  Do I reduce the minor's share by the cost of the GAL?  PR thought the estate should pay the cost and thereby spread that cost around.  There could be push back by at least one heir.  Has anyone had this experience?

Jeff

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There is no authority directly on point down here in Oregon, but in Washington, see Greider Family Trust, 16 Wn. App. 2d 1073, 2021 WL 961132 (2021; unpublished), where the court held that the trustee had not acted unreasonably in allocating expenses to the beneficiary who had caused those expenses to be incurred.  But note that the opinion was not published.
Does anyone have any other authority?
Phil Jones

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Good Morning all,

I'd appreciate any feedback you can share on how you handle probate fees that are clearly related to one heir (there is no question about it).  I have told counsel for heir I will be reducing the heirs share by expenses related to the extra expense our estate is incurring and I don't suspect any pushback but it got me thinking about what I would say if I got pushback.

Thanks in advance and make it a great day.

Diane J. Kiepe

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