[WSBAPT] heir search firm
Jayne Gilbert
jgilbertatty at gmail.com
Tue Feb 22 18:21:15 PST 2022
I have used Von Langen as well & highly recommend his services
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 4:49 PM Sharon Rutberg <sharon at salmonbaylaw.com>
wrote:
> We have used Von Langen, https://www.missingheir.com/, with a good
> outcome.
>
> Sharon C. Rutberg, Attorney at Law
> Salmon Bay Law Group, PLLC
> 1734 NW Market St.
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> 1. Referral for Private Investigator for Missing Intestate Heir
> (David Faber)
> 2. Re: Referral for Private Investigator for Missing Intestate
> Heir (Lori Rath)
> 3. Re: Referral for Private Investigator for Missing Intestate
> Heir (Philip N. Jones)
> 4. Re: Distribution to Beneficiaries who are participating
> (Philip N. Jones)
> 5. Re: Ejectment Action - Pierce County (Christie Martin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:16:14 -0800
> From: David Faber <david at faberfeinson.com>
> To: "WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv" <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Referral for Private Investigator for Missing
> Intestate Heir
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> Does anyone have a referral to a competent private investigator who might
> be able to handle finding an intestate heir who is decades estranged from
> the family and cannot be found (probably isn't in Washington State anymore)?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
> David J. Faber
> Faber Feinson PLLC
> 800 Polk Street, Suite B
> Port Townsend, WA 98368
> (360) 379-4110
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> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 22:26:55 +0000
> From: Lori Rath <rath at cirrus.law>
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Referral for Private Investigator for Missing
> Intestate Heir
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> Hi David,
>
> Adam Winquist
> https://www.summitinvestigations.net/
>
> Lori Rath
> CIRRUS LAW PLLC
> 206.487.4443
> https://calendly.com/rath-cirruslaw
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> 309 S. Cloverdale Street
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> Seattle, WA 98108
> www.cirrus.law<http://www.cirrus.law/>
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> On Behalf Of David Faber
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 2:16 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Referral for Private Investigator for Missing Intestate
> Heir
>
> Does anyone have a referral to a competent private investigator who might
> be able to handle finding an intestate heir who is decades estranged from
> the family and cannot be found (probably isn't in Washington State anymore)?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
> David J. Faber
> Faber Feinson PLLC
> 800 Polk Street, Suite B
> Port Townsend, WA 98368
> (360) 379-4110
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> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 23:17:36 +0000
> From: "Philip N. Jones" <pjones at duffykekel.com>
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Referral for Private Investigator for Missing
> Intestate Heir
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> You might try hiring a genealogist. Often works quite well.
> Phil Jones
>
> Philip N. Jones
> Duffy Kekel LLP
> 900 S.W. Fifth Ave. Suite 2500
> Portland, OR 97204
> pjones at duffykekel.com<mailto:pjones at duffykekel.com>
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> On Behalf Of Lori Rath
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 2:27 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Referral for Private Investigator for Missing
> Intestate Heir
>
> Hi David,
>
> Adam Winquist
> https://www.summitinvestigations.net/
>
> Lori Rath
> CIRRUS LAW PLLC
> 206.487.4443
> https://calendly.com/rath-cirruslaw
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> [cid:image001.png at 01D82736.275B4600]
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> 309 S. Cloverdale Street
> Suite B-4
> Seattle, WA 98108
> www.cirrus.law<http://www.cirrus.law/>
>
> + Estate, Gift & Trust Planning and Tax
> + Probate and Trust Administration
> + Individual and Business Tax
> + Executive Benefits
> + Life Insurance Planning
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of David Faber
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 2:16 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Referral for Private Investigator for Missing Intestate
> Heir
>
> Does anyone have a referral to a competent private investigator who might
> be able to handle finding an intestate heir who is decades estranged from
> the family and cannot be found (probably isn't in Washington State anymore)?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best,
> David J. Faber
> Faber Feinson PLLC
> 800 Polk Street, Suite B
> Port Townsend, WA 98368
> (360) 379-4110
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 23:22:04 +0000
> From: "Philip N. Jones" <pjones at duffykekel.com>
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Distribution to Beneficiaries who are
> participating
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> I cannot offer authority (which is what you have asked for), but I do have
> some encouraging words, for what they might be worth. Oftentimes the
> question comes up how to allocate expenses to troublemakers. I have
> occasionally suggested distributing to the good beneficiaries, so that
> future expenses come solely out of the shares of the bad ones. Down here
> in Oregon, the Uniform Trust Code eliminates from the definition of
> beneficiaries those who have been paid in full. I seem to recall that this
> issue has come up previously on this listserv, without any authority being
> cited.
> Phil Jones
>
> Philip N. Jones
> Duffy Kekel LLP
> 900 S.W. Fifth Ave. Suite 2500
> Portland, OR 97204
> pjones at duffykekel.com<mailto:pjones at duffykekel.com>
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> On Behalf Of Brent Williams-Ruth
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 11:58 AM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Distribution to Beneficiaries who are participating
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> Greetings List -
>
> I have a strange situation. Estate with 7 beneficiaries to each receive
> the equal distribution. Three are not being responsive and causing delay in
> settling the estate.
>
> Does anyone know have authority that would allow me to distribute what is
> NOW an equal share, and then just continue to move forward and assign the
> costs of the remaining estate fees/expenses to the beneficiaries of the
> three shares not distributed?
>
> Brent Williams-Ruth (pronouns: he/him)
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> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 00:02:48 +0000
> From: Christie Martin <christie at cascadialawyers.com>
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County
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> My partner, Gabrielle Richards, does ejectment actions in SW Washington
> and Oregon.
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> Christie L. Martin | Martin & Richards, PLLC Attorney at Law
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> on behalf of Karin Treadwell <karin at sayrelawoffices.com>
> Date: Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 11:31 AM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County Christine Lord at
> our firm does landlord work. Feel free to contact her at:
> Chrissy at sayrelawoffices.com<mailto:Chrissy at sayrelawoffices.com>.
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> Karin
> Karin S. Treadwell
> Sayre Law Offices, PLLC
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> On Behalf Of Jennifer L White
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 2:06 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County
>
> If there are any attorneys out there that practice LL/T that are willing
> to take some of these on with payment later upon sale of the house, please
> respond. In my particular case, my client would gladly pay a healthy
> premium and can give security. There is plenty of equity in the property,
> but we have to get the deadbeat relative out of there to realize it.
>
> Jennifer L. White, Esq.
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> jen at appletreelaw.com<mailto:jen at appletreelaw.com>
> PO Box 11037
> Yakima, WA 98909
> 509.225.9813
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Kaitlyn Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 1:53 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County
>
> This is most likely an ejectment action and using 59.18 to terminate the
> "tenancy" might only hurt the situation for the PR even more. Admitting or
> posturing the occupants' rights as subject to RCW 59.18 could make it more
> time consuming to remove them. An ejectment action might be faster and
> there's the risk that the court might even dismiss any attempts to use
> 59.18 and have the PR start over with ejectment action.
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:35 PM Amy Goertz <amyjgoertz at icloud.com<mailto:
> amyjgoertz at icloud.com>> wrote:
> Yes, that is a good starting point. I would be willing to bet, however,
> that the beneficiary (who is neither a relative nor the PR, but was the
> decedent?s live-in boyfriend) will not go with just a Notice.
>
> Does anyone know of someone with this type of practice in Pierce County?
>
> Amy
>
> Amy J. Goertz, J.D.
> Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC
> amyjgoertz at icloud.com<mailto:amyjgoertz at icloud.com>
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> On Feb 16, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Gwendolyn Cornwell <Gwendolyn at glgmail.com
> <mailto:Gwendolyn at glgmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The PR could serve the relative with a 90-day Notice to Vacate and Intent
> to Sell pursuant to RCW 59.18.650(e). So long as the relative living in
> the house is not the PR, of course.
>
> Gwendolyn Cornwell
> Attorney
>
> Gourley Law Group
> The Exchange Connection
> Snohomish Escrow
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Diane J. Kiepe
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:36 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
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> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County
>
> This is getting out of control ? I have 3 such cases now.
>
> Diane J. Kiepe
>
> Diane J. Kiepe
> Douglas Eden
> 717 W. Sprague Ave.
> Suite 1500
> Spokane, WA 99201
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> 509-455-5300
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> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Jennifer L White
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:24 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
> Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County
>
> Please post responses to the list. I?ve got a probate with one of those
> too. My client (PR) went and had a consultation with a LL/T attorney, who
> advised her to do a cash for keys deal with the errant relative. Client
> comes back to me with that information, and when I asked where they were
> going to get the cash, I got a long silence in response??
>
> Jennifer L. White, Esq.
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>
> jen at appletreelaw.com<mailto:jen at appletreelaw.com>
> PO Box 11037
> Yakima, WA 98909
> 509.225.9813
>
> From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com
> <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Amy Goertz
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:13 PM
> To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:
> wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Ejectment Action - Pierce County
>
> As some of you may recall from a previous post to this list serve, I have
> an estate in Pierce County in which the beneficiary needs to be removed
> from the house so that the house can be sold to satisfy creditors. You may
> rest assured that he is not going to cooperate in this endeavor unless
> someone is outstandingly charming and convincing.
>
> I will need an attorney who specializes in this area of practice to
> accomplish this. The estate has no money and will not have any money until
> the beneficiary is removed and the house sold.
>
> Any thoughts on who might be willing to help with this challenge and wait
> to be paid until the sale of the home?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions -
>
> Amy
>
> Amy J. Goertz, J.D.
> Goertz & Lambrecht PLLC
> amyjgoertz at icloud.com<mailto:amyjgoertz at icloud.com>
>
> 1.888.926.2607 phone
> 1.877.684.1627 fax
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