[WSBAPT] Community or Separate?

Andrekita Silva ak at seattle-silvalaw.com
Tue Aug 9 23:05:40 PDT 2022


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August 9, 2022

I'm with Geoffrey.

A divorce action automatically abates upon the death of one party. The  
state is no longer involved and the surviving spouse gets all the  
community property as if no divorce had ever been filed. Since no  
divorce was ever filed, more so.  Separate property agreements do need  
to be in writing. 

I'm not sure son has a legal leg to stand on, but stranger things have  
happened. 
If adult?  son is a really nice guy, if he had a good relationship  
with his dad, maybe he can appeal to wife's sense of fairness, etc. to  
reach  resolution?

andrekita
Law Office of F. Andrekita Silva
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Seattle, Washington 98101
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Quoting "Lewis, Amy C." <ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com>:

> There’s also 26.16.140 and the “defunct marriage” theory, but I  
> don’t know if it would apply to proceeds from the sale of a  
> community asset.  See In re Marriage of Short 125 Wn.2d 865 (1995).
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>    GEOFFREY, IS THERE ANY ARGUMENT TO BE MADE THAT THE ACTS OF THE  
> SPOUSES IN SEPARATING, SELLING THE COMMUNITY HOUSE, AND DIVIDING THE  
> PROCEEDS SHOWS AN INTENT BY BOTH PARTIES TO HOLD THEIR SHARE OF THE  
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>    I GET THE BASIC ANALYSIS: THE HOUSE WAS COMMUNITY PROPERTY, AND  
> ANY TRACEABLE PROCEEDS FROM SALE OF THE HOUSE WOULD ALSO BE  
> COMMUNITY PROPERTY. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SELLING THE HOUSE IN THE  
> PROCESS OF ACTUALLY SEPARATING, AND THEN MAINTAINING SEPARATE  
> HOUSEHOLDS AND MAINTAINING EACH PERSON’S SHARE IN SEPARATE ACCOUNTS,  
> MAKES IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY INTENDED TO CREATE SEPARATE PROPERTY.
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>    OR DOES RCW 26.16.120 ACT AS A STATUTE OF FRAUDS, PREVENTING AN  
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>    COUPLE WERE CONTEMPLATING DIVORCE.  NOTHING FILED.  THEY SOLD THE  
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