[WSBAPT] "Ascertainable creditor"?

Mark Vohr mcv at ohanafc.com
Mon Sep 6 13:49:44 PDT 2021


Agree with Roger.

Mark Vohr
Principal, Ohana Fiduciary Corporation
(206) 782-1189
Mcv at ohanafc.com
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I vote ‘yes’.  Seems to me that ‘ascertainable’ includes situations like this where liability is not clear.



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Hello,



One more question.



Client is uncertain whether she is required to give notice to a creditor that has sent a billing statement made out to the decedent's condominium management company, but not to decedent or to decedent's estate directly, and which charges she disputes. The bill references decedent's unit number. The bill is for water mitigation damages that allegedly took place during our heat wave in June but which client did not authorize (client paid other water-damage bills related to her uncle's property prior to the sale of the house, with invoices made out to the estate). Client is not sure whether the condo association is covering these charges and doesn't want to volunteer information during the notice period if it's not required. Of course, she does if it is required.



Is the creditor considered "ascertainable" if Administrator is in receipt of the bill, regardless of whether the bill is made out to the estate?



Best,



Suzanne Lieberman

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