[WSBAPT] Judgement - insolvent estate

Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com Jeff at bellanddavispllc.com
Thu Nov 18 13:24:47 PST 2021


One question, how old is the judgment?

 

Jeff

 

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Another quick off the cuff thought or two:

 

1.	Really nothing to probate because of the CPA.
2.	CPA still subject to decedent's proper claims.
3.	You can always talk with a debtor but you could also follow the
creditor claims statute once you determine the reach of the judgement.  If
no filing timely there will be a bar.  If there is a timely filing then you
could begin negotiating.  When negotiating decedent's debts, don't forget
the family allowance (FA) (which now in King County is I believe over
$700,000.00).  I have used the FA as leverage for creditor's who took fifty
cents on the dollar.  I explained we had only so much money and that money
could be paid mostly to lawyers in a Family Allowance hearing or they could
agree to take less.  It worked out well.
4.	I realize these thoughts are super substantive but maybe will get
response on other experiences with the FA.

 

Diane J. Kiepe

 

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Hi Mike-

 

Partial answer, off the top of my head:  

 

There are cases about liability of a spouse for the other's debts.  See
Haley v. Highland, 142 Wn.2d 135 (2000), which deals with this issue and
cites earlier important cases.  (There may be more recent salient cases).  

 

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Married couple with Wills and CPA.  H gets a Judgement against him. H dies
and W does not probate will but has a CPA. W dies and heirs open probate and
try to sell real property only to find a Judgement against H. Judgement
would make estate insolvent. 

Two questions come to mind. 

1. Doesn't Judgement attach only to H's share?  Does a probate need to be
opened for H's estate? 

2. Can W 's PR simply request Judgement debtor reduce Judgement to H's share
at time of H's death? 

Thanks Mike 

 



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