[WSBAPT] "Marriage" for intestacy and DPOA question

Roger Hawkes Roger at law-hawks.com
Tue Apr 20 12:40:55 PDT 2021


Well said; as usual, I agree with Eric.  I, too, would like to take an appropriate case to see if 100% to the survivor would work.

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen
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The short answer is No; allowing a CIR to inherit as a spouse would effectively create a common-law marriage, which Washington has said repeatedly we do not do.

However, the law says that community-like property (all property that would have been considered community property had the couple been married) is divided in a “just and equitable” manner between the survivor and the deceased’s estate, such that the survivor keeps their share and the decedent's heirs inherit the estate’s share. The cases are not clear on what division actually looks like. They imply that the division would be made applying the same factors as in divorce, but that really does not work. One of the main concerns in a divorce outcome is the resulting financial situation for each ex-spouse going forward, and obviously that does not apply for someone who is deceased.

So, I have entertained the idea that, in a proper case, the "just and equitable" division of assets between the survivor and the decedent could be 100% to the survivor and 0% to the estate. That is not strictly speaking an "inheritance" but it would achieve the outcome you are suggesting. If it works.

Regarding your second question, I think that between the broad authority given under RCW 11.125.330<https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.125&full=true#11.125.330> and RCW 11.125.340<https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.125&full=true#11.125.340>, a general power of attorney would allow that. See also RCW 11.125.250<https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.125&full=true#11.125.250> and RCW 11.125.260<https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.125&full=true#11.125.260>.

Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
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Subject: [WSBAPT] "Marriage" for intestacy and DPOA question

Good morning,

So are there ever any circumstances under which a life partner can be considered a spouse for purposes of inheriting under WA's intestacy laws? First PC was together with SO for 35 years and they had an informal marriage ceremony and held everything jointly. Second PC was together with SO for 19 years and they held everything jointly.

Also, can a DPOA be used for an heir living abroad to sign waivers for opening probate, for transferring title to deeds from the estate, and for disclaimers of assets? Sister of decedent is coming to the States for a few weeks and wants to use a DPOA for her mother to handle probate matters for her father. Or does the mom need to sign everything herself? She is elderly and living in Poland.

Sincerely,

Suzanne Lieberman
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