[WSBAPT] referral employment law attorney

Scott Schill sschill at lifepointlaw.com
Fri Feb 28 13:58:35 PST 2020


I highly recommend Patty Eakes and Andrea Ostrovsky at Calfo, Eakes & Ostrovsky:
http://calfoeakes.com/profile/partner/patty-a-eakes 
http://calfoeakes.com/profile/partner/andrea-delgadillo-ostrovsky


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   1. Re: Parents need to disclaim? (Philip N. Jones)
   2. Re: Parents need to disclaim? (Paul Neumiller)
   3. referral employment law  attorney (Bryce Dille)
   4. Re: referral employment law  attorney (Rich McEntee)
   5. Re: referral employment law  attorney (David Greenberg)
   6. Re: referral employment law  attorney (Inge Fordham)


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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:05:06 +0000
From: "Philip N. Jones" <pjones at duffykekel.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?
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That is excellent advice.  A percentage penalty based on a zero tax is a zero penalty.  Yes, a return is legally required, but there is no penalty.  Letting the clients decide is the best thing.  Attorneys advise, not decide.
Phil Jones
Portland, OR

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Diane J. Kiepe
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 11:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Technically there is a gift tax filing, which would result (unless above the exclusion) of a use of some credit and zero tax owed.  Penalties and Interest on zero is zero.  I believe, once upon a time, there was a flat failure to file fee but our office hasn?t seen that in probably 30 years or more.

I explain the law to my clients and leave it up to them on if they file or not.


Diane J. Kiepe

Diane J. Kiepe
Douglas Eden
717 W. Sprague Ave.
Suite 1500
Spokane, WA  99201
djkiepe at depdslaw.com<mailto:djkiepe at depdslaw.com>
509-455-5300


From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller
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To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Hi All, if the parents don?t sign a valid disclaimer, then, being deemed a gift, don?t the parents have to file a gift tax return if the gift exceeds $15,000.  And if that?s the case, wouldn?t it just be easier and cheaper for the family to just sign a disclaimer and be done with it?


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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Diane J. Kiepe
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Mike,

A disclaimer will just prevent the money transfer from being a deemed gift to the other son.  Without a timely disclaimer, when the son takes, it as if the parents got it and then gifted it.  If the parents aren?t high net-worth people concerned with gift/estate tax at the federal level they could probably just have it go directly to the son.  I have done this recently in another context where siblings avoided a disclaimer.  We did do a TEDRA that recognized it could be a deemed gift from some to others but, again, based on current exemptions no one really cared.

Best of luck!


Diane J. Kiepe

Diane J. Kiepe
Douglas Eden
717 W. Sprague Ave.
Suite 1500
Spokane, WA  99201
djkiepe at depdslaw.com<mailto:djkiepe at depdslaw.com>
509-455-5300



From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of michael at westseattleattorney.com<mailto:michael at westseattleattorney.com>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Son died intestate and Parents waived right to be PR. They indicated that they don't need money and they wanted it to go to other son, who was appointed PR, and whom is next in line. I informed them that the needed to sign a disclaimer but they just wanted other son to inherit. RCW 11.86.031says "may be" .... . Are there legal, tax implications which also require filing of a disclaimer?
Mike Atkins

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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 20:37:05 +0000
From: Paul Neumiller <pneumiller at hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?
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OK, thanks for clarifying.


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Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

That is excellent advice.  A percentage penalty based on a zero tax is a zero penalty.  Yes, a return is legally required, but there is no penalty.  Letting the clients decide is the best thing.  Attorneys advise, not decide.
Phil Jones
Portland, OR

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Diane J. Kiepe
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Technically there is a gift tax filing, which would result (unless above the exclusion) of a use of some credit and zero tax owed.  Penalties and Interest on zero is zero.  I believe, once upon a time, there was a flat failure to file fee but our office hasn?t seen that in probably 30 years or more.

I explain the law to my clients and leave it up to them on if they file or not.


Diane J. Kiepe

Diane J. Kiepe
Douglas Eden
717 W. Sprague Ave.
Suite 1500
Spokane, WA  99201
djkiepe at depdslaw.com<mailto:djkiepe at depdslaw.com>
509-455-5300


From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Paul Neumiller
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 11:45 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Hi All, if the parents don?t sign a valid disclaimer, then, being deemed a gift, don?t the parents have to file a gift tax return if the gift exceeds $15,000.  And if that?s the case, wouldn?t it just be easier and cheaper for the family to just sign a disclaimer and be done with it?


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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Diane J. Kiepe
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To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Mike,

A disclaimer will just prevent the money transfer from being a deemed gift to the other son.  Without a timely disclaimer, when the son takes, it as if the parents got it and then gifted it.  If the parents aren?t high net-worth people concerned with gift/estate tax at the federal level they could probably just have it go directly to the son.  I have done this recently in another context where siblings avoided a disclaimer.  We did do a TEDRA that recognized it could be a deemed gift from some to others but, again, based on current exemptions no one really cared.

Best of luck!


Diane J. Kiepe

Diane J. Kiepe
Douglas Eden
717 W. Sprague Ave.
Suite 1500
Spokane, WA  99201
djkiepe at depdslaw.com<mailto:djkiepe at depdslaw.com>
509-455-5300



From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of michael at westseattleattorney.com<mailto:michael at westseattleattorney.com>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 11:02 AM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserve <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Parents need to disclaim?

Son died intestate and Parents waived right to be PR. They indicated that they don't need money and they wanted it to go to other son, who was appointed PR, and whom is next in line. I informed them that the needed to sign a disclaimer but they just wanted other son to inherit. RCW 11.86.031says "may be" .... . Are there legal, tax implications which also require filing of a disclaimer?
Mike Atkins

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:33:28 +0000
From: Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com>
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Subject: [WSBAPT] referral employment law  attorney
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I'd appreciate a referral for atty knowledgeable in employment law.  I have a client that just received notice of possible suit because two of his employees,that were formerly employees of a competitor, are allegedly in  violation the terms of their non solicitation agreement they had with that competitor. Thanks

Bryce H. Dille
Dille Law, PLLC
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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 13:40:30 -0800
From: Rich McEntee <jrmcentee at gmail.com>
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Hi Bryce

I?d recommend Paul Nordsletten. Here is a link to his firm,

http://tahomalaw.com <http://tahomalaw.com/>

Best
Rich


RICH McENTEE
McENTEE LAW OFFICE
3800 Bridgeport Way W, Ste A411
University Place, WA 98466
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> On Feb 28, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com> wrote:
> 
> I?d appreciate a referral for atty knowledgeable in employment law.  I 
> have a client that just received notice of possible suit because two 
> of his employees,that were formerly employees of a competitor, are 
> allegedly in  violation the terms of their non solicitation agreement 
> they had with that competitor. Thanks
>  
> Bryce H. Dille
> Dille Law, PLLC
> Office: 360-350-0270
> Cell: 253-579-5561
>  
> ** Please note that I use the dictation feature of my iPhone and that 
> sometimes everything I say does not get properly translated**
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>  
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:42:19 +0000
From: David Greenberg <dgreenberg at bpmlaw.com>
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] referral employment law  attorney
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Shaina Johnson and James Nelson in my office handle these cases.

Shaina R. Johnson
206.268.8623
sjohnson at bpmlaw.com

James D. Nelson
206.268.8622
jnelson at bpmlaw.com


David R. Greenberg
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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Bryce Dille
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 1:33 PM
To: 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] referral employment law attorney

I'd appreciate a referral for atty knowledgeable in employment law.  I have a client that just received notice of possible suit because two of his employees,that were formerly employees of a competitor, are allegedly in  violation the terms of their non solicitation agreement they had with that competitor. Thanks

Bryce H. Dille
Dille Law, PLLC
Office: 360-350-0270
Cell: 253-579-5561

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:46:33 +0000
From: Inge Fordham <inge at fordhamlegal.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] referral employment law  attorney
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I second Paul Nordsletten.


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Fordham Law, PLLC
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Date: Friday, February 28, 2020 at 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] referral employment law attorney

Hi Bryce

I?d recommend Paul Nordsletten. Here is a link to his firm,

http://tahomalaw.com

Best
Rich

RICH McENTEE
McENTEE LAW OFFICE
3800 Bridgeport Way W, Ste A411
University Place, WA 98466
253.227.9894(m)
jrmcentee at gmail.com<mailto:jrmcentee at gmail.com>




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On Feb 28, 2020, at 1:33 PM, Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com<mailto:Bryce at dillelaw.com>> wrote:

I?d appreciate a referral for atty knowledgeable in employment law.  I have a client that just received notice of possible suit because two of his employees,that were formerly employees of a competitor, are allegedly in  violation the terms of their non solicitation agreement they had with that competitor. Thanks

Bryce H. Dille
Dille Law, PLLC
Office: 360-350-0270
Cell: 253-579-5561

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