[WSBAPT] pleadings to probate lost will

Robert R. Cole cole-gilday at stanwoodlaw.net
Thu Feb 27 12:57:22 PST 2020


My quest in Snohomish County had all heirs/beneficiaries agreeing and 
waiving notice, with authentication of signatures.  So it is not always 
easy....

Very Truly Yours,

Robert R. Cole

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On 2/27/2020 12:44 PM, Heather de Vrieze wrote:
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> I believe that some proof of authenticity of the witness signatures is 
> required. Of course, agreement makes these things easy. I have 
> admitted several copies to probate just in the last several months, 
> each time we had consents from all interested parties (heirs and named 
> beneficiaries).
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> <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Winslow
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:18 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] pleadings to probate lost will
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> My review of the applicable law shows that a hearing with notice to 
> the heirs at law would be mandatory. 11.20.070.
>
> My concern is with validity of the self-proving affidavit. This is 
> part of the copy of the Will. Obviously a copy of the affidavit.
>
> My concern is whether I need to run down a subscribing witness to 
> testify to authenticity of signatures on the self-proving affidavit or 
> if the surviving spouse can authenticate the signature of testator. I 
> could see a could requiring testimony of a witness. See 11.20.070(1) 
> and 11.20.020.
>
> And the timing of a notice of hearing does not appear to be addressed 
> in 11.20.070.  11.28.131, while not specific to this issue, says ten 
> days. Otherwise, it appears we go by 11.96A.100. any thoughts on this 
> notice requirement would be appreciated.
>
> Mike
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> *Sent:* Thursday, February 27, 2020 11:50 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] pleadings to probate lost will
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> A Snohomish County Commissioner also rejected my application (which 
> had all the statutory requirements) and required a memorandum of law 
> and a noted hearing.  Not necessarily a user friendly court....
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> Very Truly Yours,
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> Robert R. Cole
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> On 2/27/2020 11:31 AM, Dalynne Singleton wrote:
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>     I have shared my pleadings with Mike in a separate email.  I had a
>     Snohomish Commissioner reject my copy of will petition so was able
>     to develop pleadings which conformed with the statute requirements
>     and it was later accepted.
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>     *Subject:* [WSBAPT] pleadings to probate lost will
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>     After 38 years of law practice, I have a probate involving a lost
>     original will. We have a photo copy, with signatures, including
>     witnesses. Preparing attorney is retired. Surviving spouse says
>     she thinks attorney sent them the originals, but she cannot find
>     them, nor a transmittal letter from attorney. Spouse had the photo
>     copy in her possession. Says she and H had not been to an attorney
>     to make changes or new wills since the time of creating the Will
>     for which there is a copy. Seems straight forward enough.
>
>     If someone could share a copy of their petition and order,
>     together with supporting pleadings that would be most appreciated.
>
>     M.
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>     Michael A. Winslow
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