[WSBAPT] Est. Planning for British Citizen?

Paul Neumiller pneumiller at hotmail.com
Thu Feb 28 14:58:23 PST 2019


Thank you John, Carla (and her business partner), and Sarah.  I have spoken with the clients and the wife is a resident green card holder AND she has no intention of ever returning to England if her USA-citizen husband passes before she does (though, she might move to Texas to be closer to her son and his family).  Wife has worked in the USA for many years and has a social security number.  And to review, the couple’s net worth is under $1 million.  All assets are in WA and all sources of income are USA-based.    So, it appears to me that, under these circumstances and based on my independent research and this listserv, the standard estate planning documents for a resident alien with a non-taxable estate will be adequate.  Once again, thanks.


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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of John Creahan
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 1:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Est. Planning for British Citizen?

Sarah,
You are correct that a non-citizen is not able to utilize the marital deduction, but the client here (who appears to be a resident alien) can take advantage of the state and federal estate tax exemption. Here, the client’s estate appears to be less than $1 million, so he does not appear to have any state or federal estate tax issues.
The situation is very different for non-resident aliens with US property – their estate tax exemption is $60,000, if I recall correctly.
Thanks,
John

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The issue for a couple with a noncitizen spouse is that only citizens enjoy the marital deduction. A noncitizen residing in the US can’t inherit tax-free the way a citizen can. Did you unwind how to handle this?

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On Feb 22, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Paul Neumiller <pneumiller at hotmail.com<mailto:pneumiller at hotmail.com>> wrote:

Nope, I asked.  No dual-citizenship.



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Paul,

Is W also a US citizen? If so, that’s fine. If not, I’d be happy to chat about this if you like.

Sarah Jael Dion

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On Feb 22, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Paul Neumiller <pneumiller at hotmail.com<mailto:pneumiller at hotmail.com>> wrote:

New situation for me.  H & W married for over 40 years, modest (<$1mil) estate, FMV of residence is about $180k, lived in Washington for over 40 years.  W is a British citizen. All assets in WA.  Only child is a son in Texas who is a US citizen and will inherit everything.  Due to being a non-taxable estate, I was going to prepare the standard simple Will, DPAs, Health Care Directive, and CPA.  Does W's British citizenship cause any problems or the way I prepare the documents?




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