[WSBAPT] Combine Probates?

Melinda mkgroutlaw at gmail.com
Thu Aug 29 15:38:15 PDT 2019


My experience over here in Snohomish County has been essentially identical to Julie’s in King. 

Melinda

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> On Aug 29, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Julie Martiniello <julie at dimensionlaw.com> wrote:
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> Late reply to this- I was able to open a joint probate for a similar matter earlier this year. It was my first go at a joint testate/intestate probate. My petition and order simply had language that requested that Letters of Testamentary be issued to the testate estate and Letters of Administration be issued for the intestate estate- both under the same cause number. Happy to send you a sample of the pleadings Paul if you are still working on this. The Commissioner here in King County did not see any issue with it and said he had seen this before- so I assume it would be the same in other counties, but not positive. As for the EIN, since the only asset that was still joint was the real property, we did that under the second spouse to pass and have had no issues.
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>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 3:33 PM Paul Neumiller <pneumiller at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep. I think you and Rebecca are spot on.  I am currently negotiating with the title company to accept the Affidavits.  The family plans on selling directly out of probate to the tenant in the residence (the last 10 years).  The title company is getting push back from the underwriter regarding the statement that there is no probate of the estate when there is a probate of the estate in GA.  I'm saying that there is no probate of the WA estate.
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>> Assuming husband died first, I would do an Affidavit of Community property (DOR form) combined with a Lack of Probate affidavit on H; with recording of death cert (usual redactions). Then Probate the wife's estate in Wa. if intent is to sell the property, I would sell the property out of the estate instead distributing to the children outright and letting them sell. This avoids use of Form 17 disclosures and allows use of a Bargain and Sale Deed to transfer title upon sale.
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>> Listmates, a Georgia couple die with WA property.  GA attorney is probating W's estate using a Will and H's estate as an administration because no H Will.  Three sons inherit everything equally.  Should I: (1) open two probates separately in WA because one is testate and one is intestate OR (2) try to combine both even though one is testate and one is intestate OR (3) ignore W's will and proceed to probate both estates as intestate since each of the three heirs inherit equally anyway.  The three heirs are cooperative.
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