[WSBAPT] Heirs for probate notice

[Karl Flaccus]

Then there were the heirs of an elderly woman who were descendants of her pre-war German grandparents. We found ourselves giving notice to descendants in a few countries in  Europe, none of whom received anything!

Karl

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This is a good time to remember that, long before the person dies, when the attorney is doing the estate planning, every attorney should say to their testators, “I know you are not leaving money to your relatives, but I need to include in your will a paragraph listing your closest living relatives, so that the attorney who probates the will will have a road map to find those people.  Even though they get no money, they need to get notice.”
This is less important for people who are married and have children.
Warning! War story follows!  I once probated a will where everything went to charity and the testator was unmarried with no children.  He told his drafting attorney that he “had no family.”  After eight hours of searching, I found myself talking on the phone with his estranged identical twin brother.  Everyone has family.
Phil Jones
Portland, OR

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Yes--notice must go to the intestate heirs as well as those who take under the will. Best for the PR to call the relatives s/he does have an address for, and ask for addresses for the others. The PR must exercise due diligence to ascertain the name and address of all heirs.



Sincerely,

Eric

Eric C. Nelsen
SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC
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Seattle WA  98144-3909
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Subject: [WSBAPT] Heirs for probate notice

Hello

I am preparing a petition to commence a probate. The decedent was quite elderly. She had no children but quite a few siblings. Only one sibling is alive. That sibling is named to inherit the residue of the estate. No other siblings were named. There are many nieces and nephews who survived the deceased siblings. My question: to satisfy the probate statutes, are all of these nieces and nephews required to receive notice of the probate as representatives of their deceased parents? I ask because there are many survivors and the whereabouts of some is unknown to the PR.

Thanks
Rich

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