[WSBAPT] Fw: A request for feedback from Member Cameron Fleury

Sat Aug 11 14:59:41 PDT 2018

Thank you so much, Jackie!  I sent Cameron my comments.

I wonder why his e-mail did not go out to the entire WSBA membership?  

Thanks for forwarding!  Sandra

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Subject: [WSBAPT] Fw: A request for feedback from Member Cameron Fleury

Listserve members may be interested in the below request for feedback. 

Jackie Cyphers

From: Paul S <mailto:pswegle at gmail.com> 

Date: 8/9/2018 10:08:13 AM

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Subject: A request for feedback from Member Cameron Fleury

Hello all, and happy Friday.  

Please see the email below from friend and fellow WSBA Member Cameron Fleury. 

If you could respond to him directly at cjf at mcgavick.com <mailto:cjf at mcgavick.com> , he would greatly appreciate it. Thank you and have a great weekend. I'll be heading off to WY Sunday to hike and climb mountains for a week and make some progress on my next book, Startup Law and Fundraising. 

Paul S. 

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Fellow WSBA members,

As you are hopefully aware, at a recent Special Session of the BOG, a Workgroup was formed to report back on the pending addition of three new seats to the BOG: to be comprised of a LLLT, a LPO and an at-large member, all appointed (not voted) to their positions.

The portion of the issue I have been tasked with reviewing and reporting back on is as follows:

How do members process information:  In other words, WSBA arguably had a long process leading up to the passage of the bylaw amendments to add new governors (governance task force, by law drafting work group, etc.) but the tip of the spear of, “here are amendments to do so,” was a fairly short time frame between being presented to the members and passed.  When and how do members respond to information.  Is it at the initial investigation stage, work group stage, or is when there is something as with concrete language to consider. 

I think this issue is appropriate for me to look into because I was what I believe to be a “standard” Member of the Bar for the last 22+ years.  Even after I read the Bar’s “Interim Governance Report”, and the final “Governance Report” a few years back, I wasn’t aware of any effects it could have on me personally as a Member of the Bar.  It only became clear to me that something seriously wrong when the Proposed Bylaws Amendments, rolled out during the Holidays a couple years ago, that I became aware that incredibly important, and in my opinion, horrible, changes were happening in the WSBA and became involved. 

What I need is to hear back from as many Members as possible, about YOUR impressions and experiences with WSBA leadership, management and the process for informing YOU, the Members, about what their Association is up to. To see if it is “working”, or if not, what needs to be done to change it.

For example, from my perspective, the Bylaws Amendments rolled out a few years ago during the holidays were “sprung” on the Membership during the Holidays when most Members were focused on family, year-end CLE’s, etc. in an effort to secure their approval without being noticed until it was too late.  Since I have become involved, I now see the process for these Amendments began almost 4 years before they were rolled-out.  Giving the WSBA the “benefit of the doubt” I can now see why they say they are shocked at the opposition when the process has been going on for so long and there has been opportunity for input at several stages before the final input period. 

That was MY perspective.  What I need to hear about, and report back to the Workgroup is what is/was YOUR perspective on the process and opportunity for YOUR input.  Please circulate this email.  I want to get more than just Family Law attorneys’ perspectives on this process.

Please feel free to contact me directly at  <mailto:cjf at mcgavick.com> cjf at mcgavick.com to provide me with your input, or to discuss this matter further.

Keep in mind that the Workgroup has only two more meetings before we have to submit our input to the overall BOG for consideration at their September Meeting.  Therefore, time is short.

Regards,

Cameron

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