[WSBAPT] Discovering a Trust

Mike Winslow mike at winslegal.com
Thu Apr 27 13:36:15 PDT 2017


I recall there is a provision in the Trust Act that requires disclosure of the trust and assets with X days of the death of Trustor. This should give sufficient basis to petition the court to obtain a copy and discover the contents of the trust if the legal counsel has that info.
Just spit balling here, but I don’t think this is too much of a reach for a judge.
 
Michael A. Winslow
1204 Cleveland Ave.
Mount Vernon, WA 98273
Ph. 360-336-3321
Em. Mike at winslegal.com
 
This message is from an attorney, so it’s confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, it’s too late to stop reading this message, but you may not use it for any improper purpose. Huge Disclaimer available upon request.
 
From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jayne Gilbert
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:48 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Discovering a Trust
 
The Successor Trustee has been serving as such prior to the Trust becoming irrevocable. We can't locate him. My client is the sister of the trustee. The attorney who drafted the trust will not send it to us because of his ethical duties. The attorney said the only way he can release the Trust is either with the Successor Trustee's permission (difficult b/c we don't know where the Trustee is) or through a Court Order
 
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:28 AM, John Creahan <john at cairn-law.com> wrote:
Hi Jayne,
Did the missing brother ever accept the trusteeship or has he been missing since the parents’ deaths?
John
 
John Creahan
 <http://www.cairn-law.com/> www.cairn-law.com
Now located in the heart of Fremont
3417 Evanston Ave. N, Suite 312
Seattle, WA 98103
206-578-5877 <tel:(206)%20578-5877> 
 
 
From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Setareh Mahmoodi
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:34 AM

To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Discovering a Trust
 
Jayne,
 
I understand the attorney's reasoning, but can't the successor trustee request a copy from the attorney directly, which I am assuming the attorney would be fine releasing a copy to and the successor trustee can then provide a copy to your client/beneficiary? The successor trustee doesn't have to hire the attorney, just request a copy. 
 
Or is there a provision in the trust about how to handle situations with missing individuals? 
 
On Apr 26, 2017 9:14 PM, "Jayne Gilbert" <jgilbertatty at gmail.com> wrote:
I truly think the attorney feels he cannot release the Trust instrument without the Successor Trustee's consent or he would be violating ethical rules. He did suggest I might have to go to court to compel production of the Trust.
 
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Maureen Wickert <wickertlaw at comcast.net> wrote:
If the disagreeable attorney represents the “trust,” is he placing himself in a position of representing all the beneficiaries?  “…because he's technically the attorney for the Trust and could be the attorney for the Trustee, if asked…” Sounds a little like protecting fees? Maybe compel production of information from the attorney who represents the “trust” by a court order and ask for attorney fees? 
 
Very truly yours,
Maureen A. Wickert, Attorney at Law
Business card for email
14900 Interurban Avenue South, Suite 255
        Tukwila, WA 98168
       Phone: 206-859-5502 <tel:(206)%20859-5502> 
         Fax: 206-260-9005 <tel:(206)%20260-9005> 
     www.wickertlawoffice.com <http://www.wickertlawoffice.com/> 
       wickertlaw at comcast.net
This electronic message contains information which may be confidential and/or legally privileged. The information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this transmission is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify me by telephone or by email immediately.
 
From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jayne Gilbert
Sent: April 26, 2017 18:56
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Discovering a Trust
 
Sara:
 
The problem is that the Successor Trustee has not employed the attorney. The attorney says it would be unethical to provide the Trust to my client because he's technically the attorney for the Trust and could be the attorney for the Trustee, if asked. The Trustee's whereabouts is unknown to both of us.
 
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Sara D. Longley <sara at longley-law.pro> wrote:
If this attorney represents the current trustee, he’s doing his client no favors by denying a copy of the trust instrument to a qualified beneficiary.
 

RCW 11.98.072


Trustee—Notification requirements.

(1) A trustee must keep all qualified beneficiaries of a trust reasonably informed about the administration of the trust and of the material facts necessary for them to protect their interests. Unless unreasonable under the circumstances, a trustee must promptly respond to any beneficiary's request for information related to the administration of the trust. The trustee is deemed to have satisfied the request of a qualified beneficiary who requests information concerning the terms of the trust reasonably necessary to enable such beneficiary to enforce his or her rights under the trust if the trustee provides a copy of the entire trust instrument. If a qualified beneficiary must compel production of information from the trustee by order of the court, then the court may order costs, including reasonable attorneys' fees, to be awarded to such beneficiary pursuant to RCW  <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.96A.150> 11.96A.150.
 
 
cid:image001.jpg at 01D1F8A6.19C81E60
Sara D. Longley, J.D., LL.M.
Attorney at Law
 
1734 NW Market Street
Seattle, WA 98107
 <tel:%28206%29%20434-5644> (206) 434-5644
Sara at longley-law.pro
www.longley-law.pro <http://www.longley-law.pro/> 
 
This email is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or exempt from disclosure.  If you have received this message in error, please inform the sender by telephone or reply email and delete this message and all attachments.  Thank you.
 
From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jayne Gilbert
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:53 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] Discovering a Trust
 
H&W are dead. No probate, but there's a trust with 2 Beneficiaries. The attorney who drew up the Trust says he cannot ethically release it to a beneficiary (the Trustee's sister). He does not represent the successor Trustee, brother as of now, but maintains that his allegiances flow to the current Trustee who cannot be found. Any suggestions re obtaining a copy of the Trust?
 
-- 
*************************************************
Jayne Marsh Gilbert
Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS
(360) 336-9515 <tel:(360)%20336-9515> 
*************************************************

_______________________________________________
WSBAPT mailing list
WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt



 
-- 
*************************************************
Jayne Marsh Gilbert
Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS
(360) 336-9515 <tel:(360)%20336-9515> 
*************************************************

_______________________________________________
WSBAPT mailing list
WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt



 
-- 
*************************************************
Jayne Marsh Gilbert
Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS
(360) 336-9515 <tel:(360)%20336-9515> 
*************************************************

_______________________________________________
WSBAPT mailing list
WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt

_______________________________________________
WSBAPT mailing list
WSBAPT at lists.wsbarppt.com
http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbapt



 
-- 
*************************************************
Jayne Marsh Gilbert
Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS
(360) 336-9515
*************************************************
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20170427/ee3a81da/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 2424 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20170427/ee3a81da/image001.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image003.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 656 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/wsbapt/attachments/20170427/ee3a81da/image003.jpg>


More information about the WSBAPT mailing list