[WSBAPT] Ademption by Extinction

Josh Grant jgrant at accima.com
Mon Jan 11 10:51:05 PST 2016


I have a standard paragraph in most wills I prepare that says that the insurance follows the specific gifts.

From: David Spencer 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 8:48 AM
To: 'WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv' 
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ademption by Extinction

Thanks, Eric.  Glad to know I didn’t miss anything obvious in my research!

 

David D. Spencer

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:57 PM
To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Ademption by Extinction

 

Several of us on the listserv were on a legislative subcommittee last year, looking at this issue. Currently the ademption rules in Washington are up in the air – no real Washington case law, so would have to fall back on persuasive common-law authority from other jurisdictions.

 

I would look at Am.Jur. or C.J.S., but off the top of my head I think the best result here is that the insurance proceeds should go to the recipient of the coin collection. The fact that the collection was stolen rather than voluntarily disposed of by the testator, and that the insurance proceeds are completely identifiable because they have not yet been paid, makes the tracing from coin collection to insurance proceeds quite simple. Giving the proceeds to the specific beneficiary does not diminish the Estate that goes to other beneficiaries, or alter the testator's estate planning in any fashion. Therefore, giving the proceeds to the beneficiary comes closest to honoring the testator's intent. 

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric

 

Eric C. Nelsen

SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC

1320 University St

Seattle WA 98101-2837

phone 206-625-0092

fax 206-625-9040

 

 

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of David Spencer
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 4:37 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: [WSBAPT] Ademption by Extinction

 

Dear Forum Members:

 

I am seeking Washington authority on these facts: 

 

Testator’s will makes specific gift of coin collection to devisee.  Collection is stolen before Testator’s death but is insured.  However, Testator dies without filing the insurance claim but Executor has now done so.  Executor intends to give the insurance proceeds to the devisee of the collection.  I have not seen the will but client is asking who gets the insurance money. 

 

Reutlinger in Washington Law of Wills and Intestate Succession is a bit unclear to me as to whether Washington allows the specific devisee receive the insurance proceeds.

 

I’ve looked at the Washington ademption decisions and not found clear guidance.  I am aware other states have statutes that would give the specific devisee the insurance proceeds (such as New York).

 

Thanks for any information you may provide.

 

 

David D. Spencer

Attorney at Law

1621 Lake Mount Drive

Snohomish, WA 98290

T 206.650.7048 or 360.862.9101

F 206.508.3999

spencer at davidspencerlaw.com

spencerlaw at hotmail.com

www.davidspencerlaw.com 

 

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