[WSBAPT] Fraudulent deed transfers

Paul Neumiller pneumiller at hotmail.com
Mon Apr 25 09:15:23 PDT 2016


Theresa, I was able to kick out a “gift deed” in the context of a probate.  Here’s a part of my memo of P&A:

 

I.            ISSUE

              Whether the Gift Deed executed by the Decedent is a proper and valid gift of community real property without the signature or express or implied consent of her husband.

II.           RULE

              To be a proper and valid gift of community property, a spouse must have the express or implied consent of the other spouse.  To be a proper and valid conveyance of community real property, both spouses must join in the execution of the deed.

              Section 26.16.030 of the Revised Code of Washington, in part, states:

26.16.030. Community Property Defined – Management and Control. Property not acquired or owned, as prescribed in RCW 26.16.010 [Separate Property of Husband] and 26.16.020 [Separate Property of Wife], acquired after marriage by either husband or wife or both , is community property.  Either spouse, acting alone, may manage and control community property, with a like power of disposition as the acting spouse has over his or her separate property, except:…

 

(2)         Neither spouse shall give community property without the express or implied consent of the other.

 

(3)         Neither spouse shall sell, convey, or encumber the community real property without the other spouse joining in the execution of the deed or other instrument by which the real estate is sold, conveyed, or encumbered, and such deed or other instrument must be acknowledged by both spouses.….

 

In Nichols Hill Bank v. McCool, Jr., 104 Wn.2d 78, 701 P.2d 1114 (1985) (a copy of which is attached as Attachment “A”), the Washington Supreme Court interpreted RCW 26.16.030(2) where a husband guarantied a loan to a son without his wife’s consent.  The loan was discharged in bankruptcy for the son and the bank sought judgment against the husband’s separate property and the husband’s one-half interest in the community property. The trial court dismissed the claim against the husband’s community property.  The Supreme Court held that:

 

RCW 26.16.030(2) specifically requires the consent of both spouses before a gift of community property can be effectuated. If we found that a creditor could reach the donor spouse’s one-half interest in community property, the total amount of that property would be diminished. We would, in effect, be defying the statutory mandate by allowing the community estate to be gratuitously reduced without the consent of both spouses.

 

Id. at 88.  The Supreme Court affirmed the trial court judgment dismissing the claim against the husband’s community property solely because the wife had not given consent.

              A second case is factually similar to this matter. In Bosone v Bosone, 53 Wn. App. 614, 768 P.2d 1022 (1989) (a copy of which is attached as Attachment “B”), a husband and wife entered into a community property agreement that converted all of their separate assets into community property. Unbeknownst to the wife, the husband deeded their residence to his children from a former marriage.  After the husband’s death, his children from the former marriage listed the residence for sale and the surviving spouse brought a quiet title action. The Washington Court of Appeals affirmed the trial court’s grant of summary judgment to the wife and declared the deed void and invalid under both RCW 26.16.030(2) (requiring consent of both spouses for gift of community property) and RCW 26.16.030(3) (requiring both spouses to join in and acknowledge a conveyance of community real property.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Theresa Nguyen
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2016 11:04 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Fraudulent deed transfers

 

Does anyone know what the remedies are or where to start if your client's spouse fraudulently transferred community property by deed? 

The deed states "spouse's name", "an unmarried individual" although they are still married.

The sale price was also less than the county's assessed value...but we have no clue who the grantee is. Some research suggest they might be foreign citizens and there is no way to contact them. After doing a record search on the Address listed as grantee's address, the grantee does not own that property. 

Any tips would be really appreciated.

Thank you.

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I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament (probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed alternate PR ants to decline.

 

I have two questions:  /requests for help.

 

First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?  I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.

 

Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.  In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters Testamentary?

 

 

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 21:23:34 +0000

From: Eric Nelsen <Eric at sayrelawoffices.com <mailto:Eric at sayrelawoffices.com> >

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See RCW 11.28.290<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290> &full=true#11.28.290> to start--a PR who resigns must account to the successor. It can be done privately and informally, outside the court, but an initial duty of the successor PR is to receive the accounting from the resigning PR and ensure that the resigning PR has turned over all assets, etc. Often this merely amounts to turning over some papers and maybe helping change over the estate bank account.

 

Once the resigning PR has fully accounted to her/his successor, the court should "discharge" her/him. The initial resignation should be "accepted" by the court and the new PR appointed, but the old PR isn't "discharged" until the Court is certain that all duties up to that point have been met.

 

You do need a new petition, order, and oath for the new PR, just like at the beginning, with appropriate changes to reflect acceptance of resignation of old PR, and some instructions that old PR shall account to the new PR and shall be discharged, say, "upon filing by the new PR of a Receipt acknowledging receipt of a satisfactory accounting and possession and control of all estate property formerly managed by the old PR." Or some such like that. If something goes wrong, the new PR can always petition the court for other relief.

 

New PR can get nonintervention powers also if available--see RCW 11.28.280<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280> &full=true#11.28.280>.

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric

 

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>  [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Steve Waltar

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:38 PM

To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv

Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and language

 

I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament (probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed alternate PR ants to decline.

 

I have two questions:  /requests for help.

 

First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?  I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.

 

Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.  In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters Testamentary?

 

 

Stephen M. Waltar, PS

Estate Planning Law

1750 - 112th Avenue NE, Suite C245

Bellevue, WA  98004

(425) 455-6788

www.waltar.com <http://www.waltar.com> <http://www.waltar.com/>

 

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Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:37:06 -0700

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper

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Also, a new PR that applies for appointment and who is not named in a will

usually has to post a bond, even if the will waived bond for those named.

You may get all interested parties to sign off on a waiver of bond for your

new PR, usually all the heirs is sufficient, but commissioner may consider

protection for creditors too.

 

 

 

The new letters issued will be "Letters of Administration with Will Annexed"

 

 

 

Tara M. Roberts

 

Puget Sound Law pllc

 

roberts at pugetsoundlaw.com <mailto:roberts at pugetsoundlaw.com>  <mailto:roberts at pugetsoundlaw.com> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:24 PM

To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com> >

Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and

language

 

 

 

See RCW 11.28.290

<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290> &full=true#11.28.290>  to

start--a PR who resigns must account to the successor. It can be done

privately and informally, outside the court, but an initial duty of the

successor PR is to receive the accounting from the resigning PR and ensure

that the resigning PR has turned over all assets, etc. Often this merely

amounts to turning over some papers and maybe helping change over the estate

bank account.

 

 

 

Once the resigning PR has fully accounted to her/his successor, the court

should "discharge" her/him. The initial resignation should be "accepted" by

the court and the new PR appointed, but the old PR isn't "discharged" until

the Court is certain that all duties up to that point have been met.

 

 

 

You do need a new petition, order, and oath for the new PR, just like at the

beginning, with appropriate changes to reflect acceptance of resignation of

old PR, and some instructions that old PR shall account to the new PR and

shall be discharged, say, "upon filing by the new PR of a Receipt

acknowledging receipt of a satisfactory accounting and possession and

control of all estate property formerly managed by the old PR." Or some such

like that. If something goes wrong, the new PR can always petition the court

for other relief.

 

 

 

New PR can get nonintervention powers also if available--see RCW 11.28.280

<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280> &full=true#11.28.280> .

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

 

Eric

 

 

 

Eric C. Nelsen

 

SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC

 

1320 University St

 

Seattle WA  98101-2837

 

phone 206-625-0092

 

fax 206-625-9040

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Steve Waltar

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:38 PM

To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv

Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and

language

 

 

 

I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament

(probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed

alternate PR ants to decline.  

 

 

 

I have two questions:  /requests for help.

 

 

 

First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new

Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?

I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.

 

 

 

Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.

In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from

fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary

duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters

Testamentary?  

 

 

 

 

 

Stephen M. Waltar, PS

 

Estate Planning Law

 

1750 - 112th Avenue NE, Suite C245

 

Bellevue, WA  98004

 

(425) 455-6788

 

<http://www.waltar.com/> www.waltar.com <http://www.waltar.com> 

 

 

 

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Message: 4

Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 23:57:10 +0000

From: Douglas Bratt <djbratt at mbavancouverlaw.com <mailto:djbratt at mbavancouverlaw.com> >

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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper

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Hello:

 

Eric Nelson's reply is, as it most often is, thorough and thoughtful.

 

One pitfall in the present situation is that the two persons mentioned in the Will to serve were probably authorized to serve "without bond," per the provisions of the Will.

 

The person who is to serve as the Substitute PR has not been similarly trusted by the Testator/Testatrix, by name, in the Will.

 

So, it very well might be that the new PR will be required to obtain and file a Personal Representative's Bond.

 

My three (3) cents (higher rates on Fridays).

 

Regards,

 

Doug Bratt

 

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>  [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Eric Nelsen

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:24 PM

To: WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv

Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and language

 

See RCW 11.28.290<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.290> &full=true#11.28.290> to start--a PR who resigns must account to the successor. It can be done privately and informally, outside the court, but an initial duty of the successor PR is to receive the accounting from the resigning PR and ensure that the resigning PR has turned over all assets, etc. Often this merely amounts to turning over some papers and maybe helping change over the estate bank account.

 

Once the resigning PR has fully accounted to her/his successor, the court should "discharge" her/him. The initial resignation should be "accepted" by the court and the new PR appointed, but the old PR isn't "discharged" until the Court is certain that all duties up to that point have been met.

 

You do need a new petition, order, and oath for the new PR, just like at the beginning, with appropriate changes to reflect acceptance of resignation of old PR, and some instructions that old PR shall account to the new PR and shall be discharged, say, "upon filing by the new PR of a Receipt acknowledging receipt of a satisfactory accounting and possession and control of all estate property formerly managed by the old PR." Or some such like that. If something goes wrong, the new PR can always petition the court for other relief.

 

New PR can get nonintervention powers also if available--see RCW 11.28.280<http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=11.28&full=true#11.28.280> &full=true#11.28.280>.

 

Sincerely,

 

Eric

 

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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Steve Waltar

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 1:38 PM

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Subject: [WSBAPT] Releasing PR and appointing new one - proper forms and language

 

I have a case in which the existing PR listed in a Last Will and Testament (probate already begun) wants to resign.  Also, the only other listed alternate PR ants to decline.

 

I have two questions:  /requests for help.

 

First, Do I need a new petition and order and oath to get a new Administrative PR appointed?  If so, would anyone share pleadings with me?  I'm fine with the Declination by the alternate PR.

 

Second, what is the proper language to have when releasing the existing PR.  In other words, should there be language to "release" the existing PR from fiduciary duties, give the courts blessing or hold harmless since fiduciary duties are terminated, and of course to cancel the existing Letters Testamentary?

 

 

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