[WSBAPT] Trust Revocation - Reality Check

[Paul Neumiller]

Actually, the notes after the RCW say: "Except as otherwise provided in this
act:

(1) This act applies to all trusts created before, on, or after January 1,
2012;

(2) This act applies to all judicial proceedings concerning trusts

31 commenced on or after January 1, 2012;

 



 

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But I believe that 11.103.030(2) applies only to trusts created on or after
January 1, 2012.

Trusts created before that date we must look to the language of the trust
itself for revocation procedures.

 

John McCrady

Counsel

Puget Sound Title Company

5350 Orchard Street West

University Place WA 98466

253-476-5721

 

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When you say the trust states it is revocable what do you mean?  Are you
talking about the title?  Or does it say in the body of the trust, "this
trust is revocable."  If it's just in the title, may need a TEDRA.  If in
the body and it says nothing more than this trust is revocable I think
11.103.030(2) controls how each trustor is able to revoke.

 

Marcus J. Fry

Lyon, Weigand & Gustafson PS

Yakima, Washington

 

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Met with an elderly man today (along with his son from a previous marriage)
who wants to either amend or revoke his revocable trust that he has with his
wife (yes, two trustors).  She refuses to sign any amendments to the trust.
The Trust says it is revocable but not by whom.  I have found RCW 11.103.030
which seems to give him full power to revoke the Trust.  We would then
replace the Trust with a new Will and start the process of defunding the
Trust.  I can't find any cases that construe RCW 11.103.030.  Anyone have
any experience with similar circumstances?  

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