[WSBAPT] Recording Death certificate without soc sec number costs $50

[Josh Grant]

I think the auditor would say that because the social security number is “generated by a government agency” under that RCW that it doesn’t apply?

At least I think that is the question.

Joshua F. Grant, PS
Attorney at Law
P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
tel 509 647 5578
fax 509 647 2734


From: jbdolan at jbdolan.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Recording Death certificate without soc sec number costs $50

The Auditor is wrong: refer them to RCW 65.04.045(3), unless I am missing something.


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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Recording Death certificate without soc sec number costs $50
From: "Lisa Schuchman" <lisa at lisaschuchman.com>
Date: Tue, March 10, 2015 5:00 pm
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> Hi, Josh,
>
> For what it’s worth, I recorded an Affidavit of Lack of Probate in King County with the SSN blocked out on the death certificate. I normally block out the mother’s maiden name as well, though in this case it was unknown. I’m pretty sure I’d have gotten your same letter if I had not blocked them out. In King it is required.
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From: wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Josh Grant
> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 4:19 PM
> To: wsbar trust
> Subject: [WSBAPT] REcording Death certificate without soc sec number costs $50
>
> Usually Lincoln County is a pretty laid back county to work with. The sent me a “don’t do this again” letter, which was better than rejecting my recording.
>
> and a form letter after I recorded an “Affidavit to clear title Re: Community Property Agreement” from the Auditor’s office. I had attached a certified death certificate. Goal was to clear title without a probate.
>
> They said that in the future they would charge a $50 non-standard document fee if we record a death certificate after having removed the Social Security number. In this case, which I didn’t notice, the client had also removed the mother’s name for reasons which I don’t have any idea why she did it.
>
> “This alteration no longer makes this a certified copy of a government issued document, which no longer exempts the document from the formatting standards”.
>
> Is this a common approach? Is there contrary authority?
>
> I suppose I could call it an exhibit “A” to the 2 page affidavit, which does conform to the formatting standards, but I don’t think that would help.
>
> We could leave the social security number on the death certificate, and save $50, but I thought that was not what is being recommended nowadays.
>
> Joshua F. Grant, PS
> Attorney at Law
> P. O. Box 619
> Wilbur, WA 99185
> tel 509 647 5578
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