[WSBAPT] No-asset insolvent intestate estate, minor child - need a GAL? Who pays?

Richard Wills richardwills at washington-probate.com
Tue Nov 25 11:25:12 PST 2014


*My understanding: The PR may withdraw/resign, but until the estate 
closes formally (eg, with the filing of a Decl of Completion --- see for 
example 11.68.110 (2) & (3)) --- or the Court otherwise discharges the 
PR, the PR remains liable for actions & omissions during his/her 
administration.  When the estate closes formally, that discharges the PR 
& cuts the PR's liability except for fraud or nondisclosure.*

*Bottom line: Administrative closing of the estate by the Court or the 
Clerk does not relieve**the PR of liability for the estate.*


On 11/25/2014 10:19 AM, MK Henderson wrote:
> Why wouldn't the PR withdraw at the same time as the attorney?
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Roger Hawkes <Roger at law-hawks.com 
> <mailto:Roger at law-hawks.com>> wrote:
>
>     Interesting thought.  No case will be pending, but the appointed
>     PR is still the PR??
>
>     Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
>
>     19909 Ballinger Way NE
>
>     Shoreline, WA 98155
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>     www.hawkeslawfirm.com <http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com>
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>     206 367 5000 <tel:206%20367%205000>
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>     Fax is 206 367 4005 <tel:206%20367%204005>
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>     *From:*Richard Wills [mailto:richardwills at washington-probate.com
>     <mailto:richardwills at washington-probate.com>]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 25, 2014 7:48 AM
>     *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv
>     *Subject:* Re: [WSBAPT] No-asset insolvent intestate estate, minor
>     child - need a GAL? Who pays?
>
>     *That, however, does not discharge the appointed PR.*
>
>     On 11/24/2014 3:47 PM, Roger Hawkes wrote:
>
>         If you withdraw, the clerk will eventually dismiss the probate
>         for non prosecution.
>
>         Roger Hawkes, WSBA # 5173
>
>         19909 Ballinger Way NE
>
>         Shoreline, WA 98155
>
>         www.hawkeslawfirm.com <http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com>
>
>         206 367 5000 <tel:206%20367%205000>
>
>         Fax is 206 367 4005 <tel:206%20367%204005>
>
>         *From:*Eric Nelsen [mailto:Eric at sayrelawoffices.com]
>         *Sent:* Monday, November 24, 2014 3:08 PM
>         *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust listserve
>         (wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>)
>         *Subject:* [WSBAPT] No-asset insolvent intestate estate, minor
>         child - need a GAL? Who pays?
>
>         No-asset estate, just personal effects of nominal value.
>         Surviving spouse and five kids, one of whom is 13 years old.
>         Received a bunch of creditor claims totalling about $10,000.
>
>         Only opened the probate to investigate a wrongful death claim,
>         which was a no-go, so now we need to shut it down with an
>         accounting and final hearing to approve no distribution, no
>         payment to creditors.
>
>         RCW 11.76.080(2) seems in indicate that appointment of GAL for
>         the minor child is mandatory. Is that right? If so, who is
>         going to pay the GAL? The Estate has literally nothing--no
>         cash, no vehicle, just some clothes and other effects of no value.
>
>         Sincerely,
>
>         Eric C. Nelsen
>
>         SAYRE LAW OFFICES, PLLC
>
>         1320 University St
>
>         Seattle WA  98101-2837
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