[SPAM] RE: [WSBAPT] WSBA Probate & Trust Daily Digest

Ben Porter bporter at porterkohli.com
Wed Feb 12 11:47:41 PST 2014


I seem to be receiving e-mails as they are sent.  How do I change this so
I only get digests on a daily basis?

Benjamin G. Porter
Porter Kohli, P. S.
1325 Fourth Avenue, Suite 940
Seattle, WA 98101
206-624-8890, Fax: 206-587-0579
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-----Original Message-----
From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:01 PM
Subject: WSBA Probate & Trust Daily Digest

To stop receiving daily digests and change back to standard mode, send a
mail message to imail at lists.wsbarppt.com with the following in the body of
the message:

   set mode standard wsbapt
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From: Doug Lawrence <Doug.Lawrence at stokeslaw.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:31:11 +0000
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Hi all:

I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list was
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corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not receiving
messa=
ges from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to post to the list
th=
ey received errors stating that they were "unauthorized posters."

I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those
problems=
.  It will be helpful to us if you let me know if you still have problems
p=
osting to the list.  Send an e-mail to webmaster at wsbarppt.com.

I would say "if you don't get this message, please let me know" - but even
=
I know that won't work.  But - if you know of people who are not getting
me=
ssages or are having any other problems with the list, please let us know.

For those of you who are receiving the digest mode, we are aware of the
for=
matting issues and the extra "stuff" in the messages.  We are trying to
see=
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Happy Tuesday!

Doug
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result=
, I expect that many of you were not receiving messages from the
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errors stating that they were “unauthorized posters.”
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ce=
ntury Gothic","sans-serif"">I have now cleaned up the
list.&=
nbsp; Hopefully that will resolve those problems.  It will be helpful
=
to us if you let me know if you still have problems posting to the
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webmaster at wsbarppt.com.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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From: "Wil Harlock" <wilharlock at gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:44:06 -0800
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Dear Doug

                Thank you for all your work on the list - I know from
experience how time consuming this work can be.  I know we are all
grateful
for your contribution of time and expertise.

Wil Harlock

wilharlock at gmail.com

360-593-5594



From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
To: WSBAPT Listserv
Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues



Hi all:



I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list was
corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not receiving
messages from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to post to the
list they received errors stating that they were "unauthorized posters."



I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those
problems.
It will be helpful to us if you let me know if you still have problems
posting to the list.  Send an e-mail to webmaster at wsbarppt.com.



I would say "if you don't get this message, please let me know" - but even
I
know that won't work.  But - if you know of people who are not getting
messages or are having any other problems with the list, please let us
know.



For those of you who are receiving the digest mode, we are aware of the
formatting issues and the extra "stuff" in the messages.  We are trying to
see if that can be resolved, but as yet we have not found a solution.



Happy Tuesday!



Doug

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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Dear Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>        &=
nbsp;       Thank you for all your work on =
the list – I know from experience how time consuming this work can =
be.  I know we are all grateful for your contribution of time and =
expertise.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Wil Harlock<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"mailto:wilharlock at gmail.com">wilharlock at gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>360-593-5594<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Doug Lawrence<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, =
2014 8:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBAPT Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] =
Update on Subscriber Issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"'>Hi =
all:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'>I discovered that the list of subscribers for the =
probate & trust list was corrupted.  As a result, I expect that =
many of you were not receiving messages from the wsbapt list, and when =
subscribers tried to post to the list they received errors stating that =
they were “unauthorized posters.” <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'>I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully =
that will resolve those problems.  It will be helpful to us if you =
let me know if you still have problems posting to the list.  Send =
an e-mail to <a =
href=3D"mailto:webmaster at wsbarppt.com">webmaster at wsbarppt.com</a>.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'>I would say “if you don’t get this =
message, please let me know” - but even I know that won’t =
work.  But - if you know of people who are not getting messages or =
are having any other problems with the list, please let us =
know.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'>For those of you who are receiving the digest =
mode, we are aware of the formatting issues and the extra =
“stuff” in the messages.  We are trying to see if that =
can be resolved, but as yet we have not found a =
solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'>Happy Tuesday!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century =
Gothic","sans-serif"'>Doug<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>=3
D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>- To contact =
the list administrator, send a message to: <a =
href=3D"mailto:webmaster at wsbarppt.com">webmaster at wsbarppt.com</a></span><=
span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>- To =
unsubscribe, send a new email addressed to: <a =
href=3D"mailto:imail at lists.wsbarppt.com">imail at lists.wsbarppt.com</a>, =
with the following in the body of the message: unsubscribe wsbapt - =
OR - send a message to <a =
href=3D"mailto:webmaster at wsbarppt.com">webmaster at wsbarppt.com</a> asking =
that you be removed from the wsbapt list.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Information =
provided on this list should not be considered legal advice. As with all =
lists - let the reader beware! No warranties or representations are made =
as to the accuracy of any information provided. All opinions and =
comments in this message represent the views of the author and do not =
necessarily have the endorsement of the Washington State Bar Association =
nor its officers or =
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Subject: RE: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:50:40 -0800
From: "Roger Hawkes" <Roger at law-hawks.com>
Reply-To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
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Hear, hearJ

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Please notice our new address below, effective August 1, 2013.

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Roger Hawkes, Attorney, WSBA # 5173=20

Hawkes Law Firm P.S.

206 367 5000 or roger at law-hawks.com

19909 Ballinger Way NE

Shoreline, WA 98155

www.hawkeslawcenter.com <http://www.hawkeslawcenter.com/>=20

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From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Wil Harlock
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:44 AM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues

=20

Dear Doug

                Thank you for all your work on the list - I know from
experience how time consuming this work can be.  I know we are all
grateful for your contribution of time and expertise.

Wil Harlock

wilharlock at gmail.com

360-593-5594

=20

From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawrence
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
To: WSBAPT Listserv
Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues

=20

Hi all:

=20

I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list
was corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not
receiving messages from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to
post to the list they received errors stating that they were
"unauthorized posters."=20

=20

I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those
problems.  It will be helpful to us if you let me know if you still have
problems posting to the list.  Send an e-mail to webmaster at wsbarppt.com.

=20

I would say "if you don't get this message, please let me know" - but
even I know that won't work.  But - if you know of people who are not
getting messages or are having any other problems with the list, please
let us know.

=20

For those of you who are receiving the digest mode, we are aware of the
formatting issues and the extra "stuff" in the messages.  We are trying
to see if that can be resolved, but as yet we have not found a solution.

=20

Happy Tuesday!

=20

Doug

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- To contact the list administrator, send a message to:
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- To unsubscribe, send a new email addressed to:
imail at lists.wsbarppt.com, with the following in the body of the message:
unsubscribe wsbapt - OR - send a message to webmaster at wsbarppt.com
asking that you be removed from the wsbapt list.

Information provided on this list should not be considered legal advice.
As with all lists - let the reader beware! No warranties or
representations are made as to the accuracy of any information provided.
All opinions and comments in this message represent the views of the
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Wil Harlock<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, =
2014 8:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> =
RE: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber =
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nbsp;       Thank you for all your work on =
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<a =
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pt.com</a> [<a =
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Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBAPT =
Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber =
Issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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From: "Tom Stuen" <tomstuen at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT]  Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:11:47 -0800
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Doug:  No good deed goes unpunished.  Thanks.
Tom Stuen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Doug Lawrence=20
  To: WSBAPT Listserv=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
  Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues


  Hi all:

  =20

  I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list =
was corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not =
receiving messages from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to =
post to the list they received errors stating that they were =
=93unauthorized posters.=94=20

  =20

  I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those =
problems.  It will be helpful to us if you let me know if you still have =
problems posting to the list.  Send an e-mail to webmaster at wsbarppt.com.

  =20

  I would say =93if you don=92t get this message, please let me know=94 =
- but even I know that won=92t work.  But - if you know of people who =
are not getting messages or are having any other problems with the list, =
please let us know.

  =20

  For those of you who are receiving the digest mode, we are aware of =
the formatting issues and the extra =93stuff=94 in the messages.  We are =
trying to see if that can be resolved, but as yet we have not found a =
solution.

  =20

  Happy Tuesday!

  =20

  Doug


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From: "Tom Stuen" <tomstuen at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT]  Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:11:47 -0800
Reply-To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
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Doug:  No good deed goes unpunished.  Thanks.
Tom Stuen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Doug Lawrence=20
  To: WSBAPT Listserv=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
  Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues


  Hi all:

  =20

  I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list =
was corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not =
receiving messages from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to =
post to the list they received errors stating that they were =
=93unauthorized posters.=94=20

  =20

  I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those =
problems.  It will be helpful to us if you let me know if you still have =
problems posting to the list.  Send an e-mail to webmaster at wsbarppt.com.

  =20

  I would say =93if you don=92t get this message, please let me know=94 =
- but even I know that won=92t work.  But - if you know of people who =
are not getting messages or are having any other problems with the list, =
please let us know.

  =20

  For those of you who are receiving the digest mode, we are aware of =
the formatting issues and the extra =93stuff=94 in the messages.  We are =
trying to see if that can be resolved, but as yet we have not found a =
solution.

  =20

  Happy Tuesday!

  =20

  Doug


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10pt">I=20
  discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust =
list was=20
  corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not =
receiving=20
  messages from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to post to =
the list=20
  they received errors stating that they were =93unauthorized =
posters.=94=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: =
10pt">I have now=20
  cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those =
problems. =20
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posting=20
  to the list.  Send an e-mail to=20
  webmaster at wsbarppt.com.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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From: "Tom Stuen" <tomstuen at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT]  Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:11:47 -0800
Reply-To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
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Doug:  No good deed goes unpunished.  Thanks.
Tom Stuen
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Doug Lawrence=20
  To: WSBAPT Listserv=20
  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
  Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues


  Hi all:

  =20

  I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list =
was corrupted.  As a result, I expect that many of you were not =
receiving messages from the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to =
post to the list they received errors stating that they were =
=93unauthorized posters.=94=20

  =20

  I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those =
problems.  It will be helpful to us if you let me know if you still have =
problems posting to the list.  Send an e-mail to webmaster at wsbarppt.com.

  =20

  I would say =93if you don=92t get this message, please let me know=94 =
- but even I know that won=92t work.  But - if you know of people who =
are not getting messages or are having any other problems with the list, =
please let us know.

  =20

  For those of you who are receiving the digest mode, we are aware of =
the formatting issues and the extra =93stuff=94 in the messages.  We are =
trying to see if that can be resolved, but as yet we have not found a =
solution.

  =20

  Happy Tuesday!

  =20

  Doug


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State Bar Association nor its officers or agents.=20


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are=
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comme=
nts in this message represent the views of the author and do not
necessarily=
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office=
rs or agents.


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are=
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comme=
nts in this message represent the views of the author and do not
necessarily=
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From: "Tom Stuen" <tomstuen at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT]  Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:11:47 -0800
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Doug:  No good deed goes unpunished.  Thanks.
Tom Stuen
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
  Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues


  Hi all:

  =20

  I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list =
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post to the list they received errors stating that they were =
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  =20

  I have now cleaned up the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those =
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  =20

  I would say =93if you don=92t get this message, please let me know=94 =
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  =20

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  Happy Tuesday!

  =20

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:26:43 -0800
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Does anyone have a referral for an estate planner around Beaverton, OR?

Thanks in advance.

-Paige Buurstra

Buurstra Law Firm PLLC
116 Avenue A, Ste. A
Snohomish, WA 98290
phone: 360.862.5900
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From: Chris Medrzycki <Chris at jaglaw.net>
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:31:54 +0000
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Luke Thiesen with Tyler Smith & Associates PC.

(503) 266-5590
Luke at ruralbusinessattorneys.com
http://www.ruralbusinessattorneys.com/

Best,

Chris Medrzycki
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Does anyone have a referral for an estate planner around Beaverton, OR?

Thanks in advance.

-Paige Buurstra

Buurstra Law Firm PLLC
116 Avenue A, Ste. A
Snohomish, WA 98290
phone: 360.862.5900
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Does anyone have a
referral=
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style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></
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>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks in
advance. <o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
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style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></
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>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black">-Paige
Buurstra<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
</div>
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style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></
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>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Cambria","serif";color:#1841A7">Buurstra Law Firm
PLLC</spa=
n></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",&quot=
;sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
mbria","serif";color:#1841A7">116 Avenue A, Ste.
A</span><sp=
an
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-ser=
if";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
mbria","serif";color:#1841A7">Snohomish, WA
98290</span><spa=
n
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri=
f";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
mbria","serif";color:#1841A7">phone:
360.862.5900</span><spa=
n
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri=
f";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
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=
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From: "John J. Sullivan" <sullaw at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:14:26 -0800
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Ditto. Thanks Doug. I did not not receive your post this time and I will
hav=
e not received an error message when I send this reply.=20

John Sullivan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:44 AM, "Wil Harlock" <wilharlock at gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Dear Doug
>                 Thank you for all your work on the list =E2=80=93 I know
f=
rom experience how time consuming this work can be.  I know we are all
grate=
ful for your contribution of time and expertise.
> Wil Harlock
> wilharlock at gmail.com
> 360-593-5594
> =20
> From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.=
com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawrence
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:31 AM
> To: WSBAPT Listserv
> Subject: [WSBAPT] Update on Subscriber Issues
> =20
> Hi all:
> =20
> I discovered that the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list
was=
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messa=
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the=
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posters.=E2=80=
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problem=
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> =20
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> =20
> Happy Tuesday!
> =20
> Doug
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rece=
ive your post this time and I will have not received an error message when
I=
 send this reply. </div><div><br></div><div>John Sullivan<br><br>Sent
f=
rom my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:44 AM, "Wil Harlock"
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ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span
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;           Thank you
for a=
ll your work on the list =E2=80=93 I know from experience how time
consuming=
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of=
 time and expertise.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=
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ock at gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D=
"color:#1F497D">360-593-5594<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
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;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a
href=3D"mailto:w=
sbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com">wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [<a
href=
=3D"mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com">mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsba
rp=
pt.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Doug Lawrence<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,
Febru=
ary 11, 2014 8:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> WSBAPT Listserv<br><b>Subject:</b>
[WSBAP=
T] Update on Subscriber Issues<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
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 all:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:"Century
Gothic","sans-serif""><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">I
discovered t=
hat the list of subscribers for the probate & trust list was
corrupted.&=
nbsp; As a result, I expect that many of you were not receiving messages
fro=
m the wsbapt list, and when subscribers tried to post to the list they
recei=
ved errors stating that they were =E2=80=9Cunauthorized posters.=E2=80=9D
<o=
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:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Century Gothic","sans-serif"">I have now cleaned
u=
p the list.  Hopefully that will resolve those problems.  It
will b=
e helpful to us if you let me know if you still have problems posting to
the=
 list.  Send an e-mail to <a
href=3D"mailto:webmaster at wsbarppt.com">web=
master at wsbarppt.com</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
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tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century
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ot;">I would say =E2=80=9Cif you don=E2=80=99t get this message, please
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ilto:webmaster at wsbarppt.com">webmaster at wsbarppt.com</a></span><span
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essarily have the endorsement of the Washington State Bar Association nor
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:22:13 -0800
Subject: [WSBAPT]
From: Jayne Gilbert <jgilbertatty at gmail.com>
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Does anyone have a Bankruptcy clause they would be willing to share with
me?

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Jayne Marsh Gilbert
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(360) 336-9515
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<div dir="ltr">Does anyone have a Bankruptcy clause they would be willing
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<div>Jayne Marsh Gilbert</div>
<div>Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS</div>
<div>(360) 336-9515</div>
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:36:26 -0800
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On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jayne Gilbert
<jgilbertatty at gmail.com>wrote:

> Does anyone have a Bankruptcy clause they would be willing to share with
> me?
>
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> Gilbert and Gilbert Lawyers, PS
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From: Lisa Schuchman <lisa at lisaschuchman.com>
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT]  DPA for Finances
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 22:38:27 +0000
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What's a bankruptcy clause?

Lisa E. Schuchman
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Anybody????

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:58:34 -0800
Subject: [WSBAPT]
From: McVittie-Law PC <mcvittielaw at gmail.com>
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PC is the sister of decedent who lived in Washington but made a
holographic
will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in the presence of at least 5
witnesses (only one of whom actually attested the will. If I am reading
RCW
11.12.020 correctly the will complies with the statutory requirement that
it be in writing. It also appears that under RCW 11.20.020 the nominated
PR
(the sister) can have one of the other witnesses sign an affidavit to
prove
the will.

If the above is correct, can I then present a petition for probate at ex
parte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a hearing be required?
What is the best practice?

Thanks,
Jim

James D. McVittie
Legacy Preservation Law
1841 NW 23rd Ave.
Portland, Oregon 97210
Phone 503-224-6611
Fax 503-224-8811
jim at mcvittie-law.com
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<div dir=3D"ltr">PC is the sister of decedent who lived in Washington but
m=
ade a holographic will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in the
prese=
nce of at least 5 witnesses (only one of whom actually attested the will.
I=
f I am reading RCW 11.12.020 correctly the will complies with the
statutory=
 requirement that it be in writing. It also appears that under RCW
11.20.02=
0 the nominated PR (the sister) can have one of the other witnesses sign
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 affidavit to prove the will.=A0<div>
<br></div><div>If the above is correct, can I then present a petition for
p=
robate at ex parte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a hearing
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be required? What is the best
practice?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,<br=
 clear=3D"all">
<div>Jim<br><br>James D. McVittie<br>Legacy Preservation Law<br>1841 NW
23r=
d Ave.<br>Portland, Oregon 97210<br>Phone 503-224-6611<br>Fax
503-224-8811<=
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From: "Lewis, Amy C." <ALewis at Eisenhowerlaw.com>
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT]  holographic will
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:05:03 +0000
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It's not valid under Washington law because the witnesses are required to
s=
ign in the presence of the testator.  However, if it's signed in Oregon
the=
n Oregon law is applicable to determine the validity of the Will.

RCW 11.12.020
Requisites of wills - Foreign wills.


(1) Every will shall be in writing signed by the testator or by some other
=
person under the testator's direction in the testator's presence, and
shall=
 be attested by two or more competent witnesses, by subscribing their
names=
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resence of the testator and at the testator's direction or request:
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aw of the place where executed or of the testator's domicile, either at
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 time of the will's execution or at the time of the testator's death,
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 be deemed to be legally executed, and shall be of the same force and
effec=
t as if executed in the mode prescribed by the laws of this state.


Amy C. Lewis, Attorney

[cid:ec_logo_color_final9f881e]

ESTATE PLANNING & PROBATE

1200 Wells Fargo Plaza | 1201 Pacific Avenue | Tacoma, WA 98402
phone 253.572.4500 | fax 253.272.5732 |
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From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
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om] On Behalf Of McVittie-Law PC
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:59 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: [WSBAPT] holographic will

PC is the sister of decedent who lived in Washington but made a
holographic=
 will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in the presence of at least
5=
 witnesses (only one of whom actually attested the will. If I am reading
RC=
W 11.12.020 correctly the will complies with the statutory requirement
that=
 it be in writing. It also appears that under RCW 11.20.020 the nominated
P=
R (the sister) can have one of the other witnesses sign an affidavit to
pro=
ve the will.

If the above is correct, can I then present a petition for probate at ex
pa=
rte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a hearing be required?
Wh=
at is the best practice?

Thanks,
Jim

James D. McVittie
Legacy Preservation Law
1841 NW 23rd Ave.
Portland, Oregon 97210
Phone 503-224-6611
Fax 503-224-8811
jim at mcvittie-law.com<mailto:jim at mcvittie-law.com>
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<h1>Requisites of wills — Foreign wills.<o:p></o:p></h1>
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Washington=
 but made a holographic will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in
the=
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w=
ill. If I am reading RCW 11.12.020
 correctly the will complies with the statutory requirement that it be in
w=
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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:15:18 -0800
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] holographic will
From: McVittie-Law PC <mcvittielaw at gmail.com>
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Got it. I missed the "attesting witness" part of RCW 12.20.020. Its
interesting, the Oregon statute does not appear to require the witnesses
signature to be "in the presence of the testator." Perhaps a witness can
attest the will after the fact?

=A7 112.235=B9
Execution of a will

A will shall be in writing and shall be executed with the following
formalities:

(1)The testator, in the presence of each of the witnesses, shall:

(a)Sign the will; or

(b)Direct one of the witnesses or some other person to sign thereon the
name of the testator; or

(c)Acknowledge the signature previously made on the will by the testator
or
at the testators direction.

(2)Any person who signs the name of the testator as provided in subsection
(1)(b) of this section shall sign the signers own name on the will and
write on the will that the signer signed the name of the testator at the
direction of the testator.

(3)At least two witnesses shall each:

(a)See the testator sign the will; or

(b)Hear the testator acknowledge the signature on the will; and

(c)Attest the will by signing the witness name to it.

(4)A will executed in compliance with the Uniform International Wills Act
shall be deemed to have complied with the formalities of this section.
[1969 c.591 =A737; 1973 c.506 =A77; 1981 c.481 =A74]

Jim

James D. McVittie
Legacy Preservation Law
1841 NW 23rd Ave.
Portland, Oregon 97210
Phone 503-224-6611
Fax 503-224-8811
jim at mcvittie-law.com
www.mcvittie-law.com


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Lewis, Amy C.
<ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com>wr=
ote:

>  It's not valid under Washington law because the witnesses are required
> to sign in the presence of the testator.  However, if it's signed in
Oreg=
on
> then Oregon law is applicable to determine the validity of the Will.
>
>
>   RCW 11.12.020 Requisites of wills -- Foreign wills.
>
> (1) Every will shall be in writing signed by the testator or by some
othe=
r
> person under the testator's direction in the testator's presence, and
sha=
ll
> be attested by two or more competent witnesses, by subscribing their
> names to the will, or by signing an affidavit that complies with RCW
> 11.20.020 <http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=3D11.20.020>(2),
=
while
> in the presence of the testator and at the testator's direction or
reques=
t:
> PROVIDED, That a last will and testament, executed in the mode
prescribed
> by the law of the place where executed or of the testator's domicile,
> either at the time of the will's execution or at the time of the
testator=
's
> death, shall be deemed to be legally executed, and shall be of the same
> force and effect as if executed in the mode prescribed by the laws of
thi=
s
> state.
>
>
>
> Amy C. Lewis, Attorney
>
>  ESTATE PLANNING & PROBATE
>
> 1200 Wells Fargo Plaza | 1201 Pacific Avenue | Tacoma, WA 98402
> phone 253.572.4500 | fax 253.272.5732 | www.eisenhowerlaw.com
>
> *From:* wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:
> wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] *On Behalf Of *McVittie-Law PC
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:59 PM
> *To:* wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
> *Subject:* [WSBAPT] holographic will
>
>
>
> PC is the sister of decedent who lived in Washington but made a
> holographic will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in the presence
=
of
> at least 5 witnesses (only one of whom actually attested the will. If I
a=
m
> reading RCW 11.12.020 correctly the will complies with the statutory
> requirement that it be in writing. It also appears that under RCW
11.20.0=
20
> the nominated PR (the sister) can have one of the other witnesses sign
an
> affidavit to prove the will.
>
>
>
> If the above is correct, can I then present a petition for probate at ex
> parte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a hearing be
required=
?
> What is the best practice?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> James D. McVittie
> Legacy Preservation Law
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Got it. I missed the "attesting witness" part
of=
 RCW 12.20.020. Its interesting, the Oregon statute does not appear to
requ=
ire the witnesses signature to be "in the presence of the
testator.&qu=
ot; Perhaps a witness can attest the will after the fact?<div>
<br></div><div><h1 style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0.5em
0.2em;padding:0px;border:0=
px;font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical=
-align:baseline;color:rgb(88,54,28);line-height:1.2em;background-color:rgb
(=
243,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inheri=
t;font-size:24px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(175
,=
153,128)">=A7</span> 112.235<span
style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;bord=
er:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:24px;font-family:i
n=
herit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(175,153,128)">=B9</span> <br>

<div style=3D"margin:0.2em 0px
0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:inher=
it;font-style:inherit;font-size:24px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:ba
s=
eline">Execution of a will</div></h1><p style=3D"margin:15px 0px
1.5em;padd=
ing:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Aria=
l,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb
(=
53,45,39);background-color:rgb(243,238,216)">

A will shall be in writing and shall be executed with the following
formali=
ties:</p><p style=3D"margin:15px 0px 0px
2em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-si=
ze:14px;font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;ver=
tical-align:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-colo
r=
:rgb(243,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:16px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(1)</span>The testator, in the
prese=
nce of each of the witnesses, shall:</p>

<p style=3D"margin:0.8em 0px 0px
4em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;=
font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-al=
ign:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(24
3=
,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:15px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(a)</span>Sign the will; <span
=
style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inh
e=
rit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:black;letter-spacing
:=
0.05em">or</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0.8em 0px 0px
4em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;=
font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-al=
ign:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(24
3=
,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:15px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(b)</span>Direct one of the
witnesse=
s or some other person to sign thereon the name of the
testator; <span=

style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inh
=
erit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:black;letter-spacin
g=
:0.05em">or</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0.8em 0px 0px
4em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;=
font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-al=
ign:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(24
3=
,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:15px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(c)</span>Acknowledge the signature
=
previously made on the will by the testator or at the testators
direction.<=
/p>

<p style=3D"margin:15px 0px 0px
2em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;f=
ont-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-ali=
gn:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(243
,=
238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:16px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(2)</span>Any person who signs the
n=
ame of the testator as provided in subsection (1)(b) of this section shall
=
sign the signers own name on the will and write on the will that the
signer=
 signed the name of the testator at the direction of the testator.</p>

<p style=3D"margin:15px 0px 0px
2em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;f=
ont-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-ali=
gn:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(243
,=
238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:16px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(3)</span>At least two witnesses
sha=
ll each:</p>

<p style=3D"margin:0.8em 0px 0px
4em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;=
font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-al=
ign:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(24
3=
,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:15px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(a)</span>See the testator sign the
=
will; <span
style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bol=
d;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:bla
c=
k;letter-spacing:0.05em">or</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0.8em 0px 0px
4em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;=
font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-al=
ign:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(24
3=
,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:15px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(b)</span>Hear the testator
acknowle=
dge the signature on the will; <span
style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;b=
order:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical
-=
align:baseline;color:black;letter-spacing:0.05em">and</span></p>

<p style=3D"margin:0.8em 0px 0px
4em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;=
font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-al=
ign:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(24
3=
,238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:15px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(c)</span>Attest the will by
signing=
 the witness name to it.</p>

<p style=3D"margin:15px 0px 0px
2em;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;f=
ont-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-ali=
gn:baseline;line-height:1.8em;color:rgb(53,45,39);background-color:rgb(243
,=
238,216)">

<span
style=3D"padding:0px;border:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;f=
ont-size:16px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(36,28,
2=
2);display:block;float:left;width:2em">(4)</span>A will executed in
complia=
nce with the Uniform International Wills Act shall be deemed to have
compli=
ed with the formalities of this section. [1969 c.591 =A737; 1973 c.506
=A77=
; 1981 c.481 =A74]</p>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div>Jim<br><br>James D.
McVit=
tie<br>Legacy Preservation Law<br>1841 NW 23rd Ave.<br>Portland, Oregon
972=
10<br>Phone <a href=3D"tel:503-224-6611" value=3D"+15032246611"
target=3D"_=
blank">503-224-6611</a><br>
Fax <a href=3D"tel:503-224-8811" value=3D"+15032248811"
target=3D"_blank">5=
03-224-8811</a><br><a href=3D"mailto:jim at mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank=
">jim at mcvittie-law.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">www.mcvittie-law.=
com</a><br></div>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Lewis,
=
Amy C. <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com"
ta=
rget=3D"_blank">ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-widt=
h:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-l
e=
ft:1ex">







<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It’s not valid under Washington law
be=
cause the witnesses are required to sign in the presence of the
testator.&n=
bsp; However, if it’s signed in Oregon then Oregon
 law is applicable to determine the validity of the Will.
<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"100%"
styl=
e=3D"width:100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign=3D"bottom" style=3D"padding:0in 3.75pt 0in 0in">
<h2>RCW 11.12.020<u></u><u></u></h2>
<h1>Requisites of wills — Foreign wills.<u></u><u></u></h1>
</td>
<td nowrap valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:0in 3.75pt 0in 0in"></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">(1) Every
wi=
ll shall be in writing signed by the testator or by some other person
under=
 the testator's direction in the testator's presence, and
<span style=3D"background-color:yellow">shall be attested by two or more
co=
mpetent witnesses</span>, by subscribing their names to the will, or by
sig=
ning an affidavit that complies with RCW
<a href=3D"http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=3D11.20.020"
target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none">11.20.020</span></a>(2),
<span style=3D"background-color:yellow">while in the presence of the
testat=
or and at the testator's direction or request</span>:
<span style=3D"background-color:lime">PROVIDED, That a last will and
testam=
ent, executed in the mode prescribed by the law of the place where
executed=
</span> or of the testator's domicile, either at the time of the
will&#=
39;s execution or at the time
 of the testator's death<span style=3D"background-color:lime">, shall
b=
e deemed to be legally executed, and shall be of the same force and effect
=
as if executed in the mode prescribed by the laws of this
state.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>


<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
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ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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serif"><font size=3D"3"><font color=3D"#000000"><u></u>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 6pt"><span
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if">Amy C. Lewis, Attorney</span></p>
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0pt"><span><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u=
></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u
>=
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height=3D"68"><u></u><u></=
u></span><span
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,0,0);f=
ont-size:3pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> <a href=3D"mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com"
target=3D=
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href=3D"mailto:wsba=
pt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com"
target=3D"_blank">wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.=
com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>McVittie-Law PC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com"
target=3D"_blank">w=
sbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] holographic
will<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">PC is the sister of decedent who lived in
Washington=
 but made a holographic will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in
the=
 presence of at least 5 witnesses (only one of whom actually attested the
w=
ill. If I am reading RCW 11.12.020
 correctly the will complies with the statutory requirement that it be in
w=
riting. It also appears that under RCW 11.20.020 the nominated PR (the
sist=
er) can have one of the other witnesses sign an affidavit to prove the
will=
. <u></u><u></u></p>


<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If the above is correct, can I then present a
petiti=
on for probate at ex parte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a
=
hearing be required? What is the best practice?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<br clear=3D"all">
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim<br>
<br>
James D. McVittie<br>
Legacy Preservation Law<br>
1841 NW 23rd Ave.<br>
Portland, Oregon 97210<br>
Phone <a href=3D"tel:503-224-6611" value=3D"+15032246611"
target=3D"_blank"=
>503-224-6611</a><br>
Fax <a href=3D"tel:503-224-8811" value=3D"+15032248811"
target=3D"_blank">5=
03-224-8811</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:jim at mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">jim at mcvittie-law.=
com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">www.mcvittie-law.=
com</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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From: "Lewis, Amy C." <ALewis at Eisenhowerlaw.com>
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT] holographic will
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 00:53:05 +0000
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That seems odd to me, but I agree the OR statute doesn't appear to require
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the witness to sign in the presence of the testator or at the time the
Will=
 is executed.  Might be worth looking for interpretation of the statute.


Amy C. Lewis, Attorney

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ESTATE PLANNING & PROBATE

1200 Wells Fargo Plaza | 1201 Pacific Avenue | Tacoma, WA 98402
phone 253.572.4500 | fax 253.272.5732 |
www.eisenhowerlaw.com<http://www.ei=
senhowerlaw.com/>

From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.c=
om] On Behalf Of McVittie-Law PC
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:15 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] holographic will

Got it. I missed the "attesting witness" part of RCW 12.20.020. Its
interes=
ting, the Oregon statute does not appear to require the witnesses
signature=
 to be "in the presence of the testator." Perhaps a witness can attest the
=
will after the fact?

=C2=A7 112.235=C2=B9
Execution of a will

A will shall be in writing and shall be executed with the following
formali=
ties:

(1)The testator, in the presence of each of the witnesses, shall:

(a)Sign the will; or

(b)Direct one of the witnesses or some other person to sign thereon the
nam=
e of the testator; or

(c)Acknowledge the signature previously made on the will by the testator
or=
 at the testators direction.

(2)Any person who signs the name of the testator as provided in subsection
=
(1)(b) of this section shall sign the signers own name on the will and
writ=
e on the will that the signer signed the name of the testator at the
direct=
ion of the testator.

(3)At least two witnesses shall each:

(a)See the testator sign the will; or

(b)Hear the testator acknowledge the signature on the will; and

(c)Attest the will by signing the witness name to it.

(4)A will executed in compliance with the Uniform International Wills Act
s=
hall be deemed to have complied with the formalities of this section.
[1969=
 c.591 =C2=A737; 1973 c.506 =C2=A77; 1981 c.481 =C2=A74]

Jim

James D. McVittie
Legacy Preservation Law
1841 NW 23rd Ave.
Portland, Oregon 97210
Phone 503-224-6611<tel:503-224-6611>
Fax 503-224-8811<tel:503-224-8811>
jim at mcvittie-law.com<mailto:jim at mcvittie-law.com>
www.mcvittie-law.com<http://www.mcvittie-law.com>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Lewis, Amy C.
<ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com<ma=
ilto:ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com>> wrote:
It's not valid under Washington law because the witnesses are required to
s=
ign in the presence of the testator.  However, if it's signed in Oregon
the=
n Oregon law is applicable to determine the validity of the Will.

RCW 11.12.020
Requisites of wills - Foreign wills.


(1) Every will shall be in writing signed by the testator or by some other
=
person under the testator's direction in the testator's presence, and
shall=
 be attested by two or more competent witnesses, by subscribing their
names=
 to the will, or by signing an affidavit that complies with RCW
11.20.020<h=
ttp://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=3D11.20.020>(2), while in the
p=
resence of the testator and at the testator's direction or request:
PROVIDE=
D, That a last will and testament, executed in the mode prescribed by the
l=
aw of the place where executed or of the testator's domicile, either at
the=
 time of the will's execution or at the time of the testator's death,
shall=
 be deemed to be legally executed, and shall be of the same force and
effec=
t as if executed in the mode prescribed by the laws of this state.


Amy C. Lewis, Attorney

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ESTATE PLANNING & PROBATE

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phone 253.572.4500<tel:253.572.4500> | fax 253.272.5732<tel:253.272.5732>
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From:
wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.co=
m>
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarp=
pt.com>] On Behalf Of McVittie-Law PC
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:59 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBAPT] holographic will

PC is the sister of decedent who lived in Washington but made a
holographic=
 will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in the presence of at least
5=
 witnesses (only one of whom actually attested the will. If I am reading
RC=
W 11.12.020 correctly the will complies with the statutory requirement
that=
 it be in writing. It also appears that under RCW 11.20.020 the nominated
P=
R (the sister) can have one of the other witnesses sign an affidavit to
pro=
ve the will.

If the above is correct, can I then present a petition for probate at ex
pa=
rte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a hearing be required?
Wh=
at is the best practice?

Thanks,
Jim

James D. McVittie
Legacy Preservation Law
1841 NW 23rd Ave.
Portland, Oregon 97210
Phone 503-224-6611<tel:503-224-6611>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
wsbapt-o=
wner at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>McVittie-Law PC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WSBAPT] holographic will<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Got it. I missed the "attesting witness"
p=
art of RCW 12.20.020. Its interesting, the Oregon statute does not appear
t=
o require the witnesses signature to be "in the presence of the
testat=
or." Perhaps a witness can attest the will after
 the fact?<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<h1
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;marg=
in-left:2.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:14.4pt;background:
#=
F3EED8;vertical-align:baseline">
<span
style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"inherit","serif=
";color:#AF9980;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">=C2=A7</span=
><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:=
#58361C"> 112.235</span><span
style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;inherit","serif";color:#AF9980;border:none windowtext
1.=
0pt;padding:0in">=C2=B9</span><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#58361C"> <o:p></o:p></span></h1>
<div style=3D"margin-top:2.4pt;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit">
<h1
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;marg=
in-left:2.4pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-line-height-alt:14.4pt;background:
#=
F3EED8;vertical-align:baseline">
<span
style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"inherit","serif=
";color:#58361C">Execution of a will<o:p></o:p></span></h1>
</div>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:11.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.25in=
;margin-left:0in;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED8;vertical-align:base
l=
ine">
<span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se=
rif";color:#352D27">A will shall be in writing and shall be executed
w=
ith the following formalities:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:11.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;m=
argin-left:24.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3E
E=
D8;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-family:"inherit","serif";color:#=
241C16;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(1)</span></b><span
style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
c=
olor:#352D27">The testator, in the presence of each of the witnesses,
shall=
:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margi=
n-left:48.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED8;
v=
ertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"inherit","se=
rif";color:#241C16;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">(a)</span=
></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:#352D27">Sign the will; </span><b><span
style=3D"=
font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit","serif";color:b
l=
ack;letter-spacing:.6pt;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">or</span>=
</b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","san=
s-serif";color:#352D27"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margi=
n-left:48.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED8;
v=
ertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"inherit","se=
rif";color:#241C16;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">(b)</span=
></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:#352D27">Direct one of the witnesses or some other
per=
son
 to sign thereon the name of the testator; </span><b><span
style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit","serif";color:bla
c=
k;letter-spacing:.6pt;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">or</span></=
b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-=
serif";color:#352D27"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:9.6pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:48.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED
8=
;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"inherit","se=
rif";color:#241C16;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">(c)</span=
></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:#352D27">Acknowledge the signature previously made on
=
the
 will by the testator or at the testators direction.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:11.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;m=
argin-left:24.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3E
E=
D8;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-family:"inherit","serif";color:#=
241C16;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(2)</span></b><span
style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
c=
olor:#352D27">Any person who signs the name of the testator as provided in
=
subsection
 (1)(b) of this section shall sign the signers own name on the will and
wri=
te on the will that the signer signed the name of the testator at the
direc=
tion of the testator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:11.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;m=
argin-left:24.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3E
E=
D8;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-family:"inherit","serif";color:#=
241C16;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(3)</span></b><span
style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
c=
olor:#352D27">At least two witnesses shall each:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margi=
n-left:48.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED8;
v=
ertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"inherit","se=
rif";color:#241C16;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">(a)</span=
></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:#352D27">See the testator sign the
will; </span><=
b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"inherit","ser=
if";color:black;letter-spacing:.6pt;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;paddi=
ng:0in">or</span></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Aria=
l","sans-serif";color:#352D27"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margi=
n-left:48.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED8;
v=
ertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"inherit","se=
rif";color:#241C16;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">(b)</span=
></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:#352D27">Hear the testator acknowledge the signature
o=
n
 the will; </span><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot=
;inherit","serif";color:black;letter-spacing:.6pt;border:no
n=
e windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">and</span></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5=
pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#352D27"><o:
p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:9.6pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:48.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3EED
8=
;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"inherit","se=
rif";color:#241C16;border:none windowtext
1.0pt;padding:0in">(c)</span=
></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:#352D27">Attest the will by signing the witness name
t=
o
 it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:11.25pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;m=
argin-left:24.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:21.6pt;background:#F3E
E=
D8;vertical-align:baseline">
<b><span
style=3D"font-family:"inherit","serif";color:#=
241C16;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(4)</span></b><span
style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
c=
olor:#352D27">A will executed in compliance with the Uniform International
=
Wills
 Act shall be deemed to have complied with the formalities of this
section.=
 [1969 c.591 =C2=A737; 1973 c.506 =C2=A77; 1981 c.481
=C2=A74]<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br clear=3D"all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim<br>
<br>
James D. McVittie<br>
Legacy Preservation Law<br>
1841 NW 23rd Ave.<br>
Portland, Oregon 97210<br>
Phone <a href=3D"tel:503-224-6611" target=3D"_blank">503-224-6611</a><br>
Fax <a href=3D"tel:503-224-8811" target=3D"_blank">503-224-8811</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:jim at mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">jim at mcvittie-law.=
com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">www.mcvittie-law.=
com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Lewis, Amy C.
<<=
a href=3D"mailto:ALewis at eisenhowerlaw.com"
target=3D"_blank">ALewis at eisenho=
werlaw.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It’s not valid under Washington
l=
aw because the witnesses are required to sign in the presence of
 the testator.  However, if it’s signed in Oregon then Oregon
la=
w is applicable to determine the validity of the Will.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"
cellpadding=
=3D"0" width=3D"100%" style=3D"width:100.0%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td valign=3D"bottom" style=3D"padding:0in 3.75pt 0in 0in">
<h2>RCW 11.12.020<o:p></o:p></h2>
<h1>Requisites of wills — Foreign wills.<o:p></o:p></h1>
</td>
<td nowrap=3D"" valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:0in 3.75pt 0in 0in"></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans=
-serif"">(1) Every will shall be in writing signed by the testator or
=
by some other person under the testator's direction in the testator's
prese=
nce, and
<span style=3D"background:yellow">shall be attested by two or more
competen=
t witnesses</span>, by subscribing their names to the will, or by signing
a=
n affidavit that complies with RCW
<a href=3D"http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=3D11.20.020"
target=
=3D"_blank">
<span style=3D"text-decoration:none">11.20.020</span></a>(2), <span style=
=3D"background:yellow">
while in the presence of the testator and at the testator's direction or
re=
quest</span>:
<span style=3D"background:lime">PROVIDED, That a last will and testament,
e=
xecuted in the mode prescribed by the law of the place where
executed</span=
> or of the testator's domicile, either at the time of the will's
execution=
 or at the time of the testator's
 death<span style=3D"background:lime">, shall be deemed to be legally
execu=
ted, and shall be of the same force and effect as if executed in the mode
p=
rescribed by the laws of this state.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;mar=
gin-left:0in">
<span
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
:black">Amy C. Lewis, Attorney<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">
<span
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
:black"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"211" height=3D"68" id=3D"_x0000_i1025"
s=
rc=3D"cid:image001.png at 01CF2749.BB513130"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#C00000">E
S=
TATE PLANNING & PROBATE</span><span
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri&=
quot;,"sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0in"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">1200 Wells Fargo
Plaza=
 | 1201 Pacific Avenue | Tacoma, WA 98402<br>
phone <a href=3D"tel:253.572.4500" target=3D"_blank">253.572.4500</a> |
fax=
 <a href=3D"tel:253.272.5732" target=3D"_blank">
253.272.5732</a> | </span><span
style=3D"font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:black"><a
href=3D"http://www.eisenhowerlaw.com/"=
 target=3D"_blank"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#C00000;text-decor=
ation:none">www.eisenhowerlaw.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",=
"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href=3D"mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com"
target=3D"_blank">wsbapt=
-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com</a> [mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.=
wsbarppt.com" target=3D"_blank">wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>McVittie-Law PC<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com"
target=3D"_blank">w=
sbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [WSBAPT] holographic will</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">PC is the sister of decedent who lived in Washington but made a
ho=
lographic will in the hospital in Oregon and signed it in the presence of
a=
t least 5 witnesses (only one of whom
 actually attested the will. If I am reading RCW 11.12.020 correctly the
wi=
ll complies with the statutory requirement that it be in writing. It also
a=
ppears that under RCW 11.20.020 the nominated PR (the sister) can have one
=
of the other witnesses sign an affidavit
 to prove the will. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">If the above is correct, can I then present a petition for
probate=
 at ex parte with the will and the new affidavit? Or, will a hearing be
req=
uired? What is the best practice?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Thanks,<br clear=3D"all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Jim<br>
<br>
James D. McVittie<br>
Legacy Preservation Law<br>
1841 NW 23rd Ave.<br>
Portland, Oregon 97210<br>
Phone <a href=3D"tel:503-224-6611" target=3D"_blank">503-224-6611</a><br>
Fax <a href=3D"tel:503-224-8811" target=3D"_blank">503-224-8811</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:jim at mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">jim at mcvittie-law.=
com</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mcvittie-law.com"
target=3D"_blank">www.mcvittie-law.=
com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 03:15:57 +0000
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Are you looking for a clause that allows the AIF to sign BK pleadings on
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half of the Principal? Or one that divests the AIF of the POA if he or she
=
files for BK?

From: wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com
[mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.c=
om] On Behalf Of Lisa Schuchman
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:38 PM
To: wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com
Subject: RE: [WSBAPT] DPA for Finances

What's a bankruptcy clause?

Lisa E. Schuchman
206-325-2801
www.lisaschuchman.com<http://www.lisaschuchman.com/>

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m> [mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jayne Gilbert
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBAPT] DPA for Finances

Anybody????

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jayne Gilbert
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Does anyone have a Bankruptcy clause they would be willing to share with
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wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.c=
om [mailto:wsbapt-owner at lists.wsbarppt.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lisa
Schuch=
man<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:38 PM<br><b>To:</b>
wsbapt=
@lists.wsbarppt.com<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [WSBAPT] DPA for
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rget=3D"_blank">www.lisaschuchman.com</a><br><br>Education is what you get
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