<div dir="ltr">The Presidency was never designed to be a popularity contest. Since the Presidency is the only all 50 state elected office it makes <div>sense that all 50 states have some say in the process. Abolishing the electoral collage and turning the race into a beauty contest </div><div>puts the office into the hands of 4 states tops. I'm thinking that the folks in Alaska, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Idaho, etc. ought to be </div><div>able to provide meaningful input into the sole country wide election.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand why you wish it weren't so but the Constitution set things up in exactly this way to protect the rights of ALL the states</div><div>and by extension, all "the people."</div><div><br></div><div>g</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:18 AM Tom Hansen <<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span></span></div><div dir="ltr">Yes. It is time to terminate the electoral college and actively support the foundation of our democracy and the constitution upon which it was founded . . .<div><br></div><div><b><i><u>ONE PERSON = ONE VOTE</u></i></b> <br><br>What benefit do “the people” achieve from the electoral college?</div><div><br></div><div>Heck! The electoral college isn’t even applied uniformly across our nation. A few states award their electoral votes to candidates in proportion to their popular vote. A large majority of the states, however, award ALL of their electoral votes to the candidate that receives the majority of the popular vote. By “majority” I mean fifty percent plus one vote.</div><div><br></div><div>If we continue to prioritize the electoral college ahead of the popular vote, we will continue to swear-in presidents who lost the popular vote by considerable margins and whose popular rating is far lower than fifty percent . . . like donald trump.</div><div><br><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span></div><div><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span></div></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Nov 26, 2018, at 10:42 PM, Ted Moffett <<a href="mailto:starbliss@gmail.com" target="_blank">starbliss@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><font size="4"><div dir="ltr"><span class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-m_-4493178798826811472gmail-m_-8248160077637529128gmail-m_2024183541114963869gmail-m_-3185948453104026449gmail-m_-2415218207216661906gmail-m_-3317389840911243548gmail-m_-5031629486436914010gmail-m_8533456309823585574gmail-m_-9207828196085857783gmail-m_5765326001311429119gmail-m_825433300481904329gmail-m_-8062041255888236656gmail-m_-3427890739484610586gmail-im"><font size="2"><font size="2"><div><span><span><span><span><span>Vision2020 Post: <span 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class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-m_-4493178798826811472gmail-m_-8248160077637529128gmail-m_2024183541114963869gmail-m_-3185948453104026449gmail-m_-2415218207216661906gmail-m_-3317389840911243548gmail-m_-5031629486436914010gmail-m_8533456309823585574gmail-m_-9207828196085857783gmail-m_5765326001311429119gmail-m_825433300481904329gmail-m_-8062041255888236656gmail-m_-3427890739484610586gmail-m_-865680299691661170gmail-m_-5507574008067140743gmail-m_-3559666282653157908gmail-m_7763689926373918484gmail-m_7562487715325556713gmail-m_2303765594966729603gmail-m_5185407423560277491gmail-m_-7339551805261331343gmail-m_6608179617401443927gmail-m_1851098523129406012gmail-m_-3667973666522737725gmail-m_7150806634314455654gmail-m_7272584660306685438gmail-m_-279399555980630466gmail-il">Moffett</span></span></span></span></span></span></div><span><span><div>***** Original material contained herein is <span 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class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-m_-4493178798826811472gmail-m_-8248160077637529128gmail-m_2024183541114963869gmail-m_-3185948453104026449gmail-m_-2415218207216661906gmail-m_-3317389840911243548gmail-m_-5031629486436914010gmail-m_8533456309823585574gmail-m_-9207828196085857783gmail-m_5765326001311429119gmail-m_825433300481904329gmail-m_-8062041255888236656gmail-m_-3427890739484610586gmail-m_-865680299691661170gmail-m_-5507574008067140743gmail-m_-3559666282653157908gmail-m_7763689926373918484gmail-m_7562487715325556713gmail-m_2303765594966729603gmail-m_5185407423560277491gmail-m_-7339551805261331343gmail-m_6608179617401443927gmail-m_1851098523129406012gmail-m_-3667973666522737725gmail-m_7150806634314455654gmail-m_7272584660306685438gmail-m_-279399555980630466gmail-il">Ted</span> <span class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-m_-4493178798826811472gmail-m_-8248160077637529128gmail-m_2024183541114963869gmail-m_-3185948453104026449gmail-m_-2415218207216661906gmail-m_-3317389840911243548gmail-m_-5031629486436914010gmail-m_8533456309823585574gmail-m_-9207828196085857783gmail-m_5765326001311429119gmail-m_825433300481904329gmail-m_-8062041255888236656gmail-m_-3427890739484610586gmail-m_-865680299691661170gmail-m_-5507574008067140743gmail-m_-3559666282653157908gmail-m_7763689926373918484gmail-m_7562487715325556713gmail-m_2303765594966729603gmail-m_5185407423560277491gmail-m_-7339551805261331343gmail-m_6608179617401443927gmail-m_1851098523129406012gmail-m_-3667973666522737725gmail-m_7150806634314455654gmail-m_7272584660306685438gmail-m_-279399555980630466gmail-il">Moffett</span>. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the <a href="http://vision2020.moscow.com/" target="_blank">Vision2020.Moscow.com</a> forum without the express written permission of the author.*****</div></span></span></font></font></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><span></span></span></div></font></div><div><font size="4"><span><span>------------------</span></span></font></div></div><div>When I heard the claim in the subject heading, I had to pause for a moment... Given two B. Clinton terms, two G. W Bush terms, two Obama terms, and one Trump... Well, I guess this is obvious. What is incredible about this is of course that twice in this period the republicans gained the presidency while losing the popular vote, with Gore and H Clinton popular vote wins.</div><div><br></div><div>This has slanted the SCOTUS toward republican presidential appointments, despite the voters choosing democratic presidential candidates in 6 of the last 7 elections, especially given the blocking of Obama nominee Merrick Garland, who should have taken a SCOTUS seat!</div><div><br></div><div>G. W. Bush appointed Roberts and Alito in 2005, though he won the popular vote in 2004. However, if Al Gore had assumed the presidency in 2000, based on the popular vote win, it is questionable G. W Bush would have been elected president in 2004. Thus these two G. W. Bush appointments still are arguably based in part on a presidential "win" against the popular vote.</div><div><br></div><div>Trump has nominated Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. Ruth Bader Ginsberg, to pick a likely vacancy before 2000, may allow Trump another SCOTUS nominee. It is obvious this outcome could slant the politics of the SCOTUS potentially for decades.</div><div><br></div><div>This episode of the Alexander Heffner hosted Open Mind on PBS television is at the website below, The fact in the subject heading as clarified by professor Pozen is copied below from the transcript of this episode:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.thirteen.org/openmind/the-law/disequilibrium-on-the-supreme-court/6063/" target="_blank">https://www.thirteen.org/openmind/the-law/disequilibrium-on-the-supreme-court/6063/</a></div><div dir="ltr"><h3>David Pozen</h3><div class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-title"><h1>Disequilibrium on the Supreme Court</h1></div><p class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-airdate">Air Date: November 19, 2018</p> <div class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-clear"></div><div class="m_-3267940269503398699gmail-content"><font size="4">David Pozen, Knight First Amendment Institute inaugural scholar and Columbia Law professor, discusses the future of American law. </font></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">POZEN: Well, first I’d say on the question of what is equilibrium, there are a lot of ways to think about that, but I do think there’s a strong case to be made, that we’re out of equilibrium in the sense that the Court’s composition doesn’t reflect the composition of the political branches in recent decades. The last time that a majority of the justices on the Court were appointed by a Democratic president was May in 1969. So we’re about to hit five decades straight of Republican President dominated courts. I believe 15 of the last 19 justices have been appointed by Republican presidents. And that’s in a 49-year window in which there have been five Democratic presidencies. The Senate’s been controlled by Democrats, more than half of the time, Democratic presidential candidates have won a plurality or majority of the popular vote in six of the last seven elections. So, that sense of being out of equilibrium reflects these, these stubborn facts, these difficult facts about the Court’s politics vis a vis the countries and I haven’t even mentioned other factors such as after Justice Scalia died, holding open his seat for more than 11 months prior to President Trump’s inauguration, denying the Merrick Garland nomination even a chance at a hearing. So, I sympathize with the distress on the liberal side that something is out of equilibrium. Getting back to equilibrium is a very hard question.</div></div></div></div></div>
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