<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail-gI"><span class="gmail-gD" name="Ron Force"><font color="#222222">Ron Force</font></span> <span class="gmail-go"><span><</span><a href="mailto:ronforce@gmail.com">ronforce@gmail.com</a><span>></span></span> wrote:<span><span><span class="gmail-go"><a class="gmail-acP" href="https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en" target="_blank"></a></span></span></span></span></div><div><a class="gmail-acP" href="https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en" target="_blank"><br></a></div><div>The article points out that 89% of the exported plastics were singe-use food packaging. I noticed that Newman's spaghetti sauce at Winco has switched from glass jars to plastic. I'm sure it's cheaper to ship lightweight plastic rather than heavier glass jars. Perhaps we need to figure out how to about build <strong><em>disposal </em></strong>costs into the price of products.</div><div><span><span>---------------------------------------------<br></span></span></div><span><span><font color="#000000"></font></span></span><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><a class="gmail-acP" href="https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en" target="_blank"><font color="#000000" size="4">As just about everyone knows, or should know, the three Rs are Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. Recycle is the last and least desirable option.</font></a><font size="4"> "<u>Disposal?" That is like treating the natural world as a business in liquidation, to reference this scholar:</u></font></font></font></font></font></font></div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"></font></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Daly">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Daly</a><span><span><br></span></span></div><div>“There is something fundamentally wrong in treating the Earth as if it were a business in liquidation.” <br>― <span class="gmail-authorOrTitle"> Herman E. Daly<span></span></span></div><div>----------------------------------------------<br></div></font></font><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000" size="4">Buying in bulk with re-usable containers is preferable to recyclable or disposable containers But the spaghetti sauce Ron Force mentioned could be or might be contained in compostable plastic, which is perhaps better than a<strong><em> disposable </em></strong>container?</font></font></div><div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><br></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000">Read here: <a href="http://www.worldcentric.org/biocompostables/bioplastics">http://www.worldcentric.org/biocompostables/bioplastics</a><span></span></font></font></div><div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><p><b>Compostable Plastics Quick Facts</b></p><ul><li> Generally Freezer safe</li><li> Depending on resin can handle hot food till 200F.</li><li> Fully compostable in commercial composting operations</li><li> Feel and look like plastics for the most part</li></ul></font></font></div><font color="#000000"><font color="#000000"><span><span>---------------------------------------<br></span></span></font></font></div></font></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:18 PM Ron Force <<a href="mailto:ronforce@gmail.com">ronforce@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">We've been dumping our waste on China, and they've finally had enough:</div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><i>For more than 25 years, rich countries shipped their plastic trash to poorer Asian countries, many of them developing nations lacking the capacity to manage such waste.<br><br>China alone took in the lion’s share—45 percent of the world’s plastic waste imports. Then at the start of this year, it refused to take more, citing local environmental concerns. China’s move threw the recycling industry into turmoil as nations scrambled to find new buyers.</i><div><div style="font-size:small"><a href="https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/06/china-plastic-recycling-ban-solutions-science-environment/" target="_blank">https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/06/china-plastic-recycling-ban-solutions-science-environment/</a></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">The article points out that 89% of the exported plastics were singe-use food packaging. I noticed that Newman's spaghetti sauce at Winco has switched from glass jars to plastic. I'm sure it's cheaper to ship lightweight plastic rather than heavier glass jars. Perhaps we need to figure out how to about build disposal costs into the price of products.</div><br><div><div class="m_1862102395057316301gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font size="2">Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA</font></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 4:56 PM Janesta Sullivan <<a href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" target="_blank">janesta@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto">Such a shame about the Moscow Center! <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Today I was in Tallahassee on business, and noticed their recycling center is closing due to the tariffs. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://m.tallasseetribune.com/2018/08/23/tallassee-recycling-center-to-close-sept-14/" target="_blank">https://m.tallasseetribune.com/2018/08/23/tallassee-recycling-center-to-close-sept-14/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This makes me sad.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 6:41 PM <a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rhayes@frontier.com" target="_blank">rhayes@frontier.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div id="m_1862102395057316301m_2564873051631310203m_-6700129079722527493yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535598728302_20388">I tend to take my recycling to the bins at the center rather than drag the green curbside out to the street with my meager offerings. I am careful to separate the various materials into the proper categories and deposit them accordingly. When I look into the bins at the recycling center, I am appalled at the garbage I see in them/ A few weeks ago I saw an inflatable swimming pool taking up a good portion of the mixed plastic bin. On Wednesday this week I took my recyclables and saw tin in the aluminum bin, aluminum in the plastic bin, and a whole lot of just plain trash in a lot of the bins. No wonder the market for recyclables is going downhill. Too much containments in the stream. Are people uneducated about what and what quality is recyclable, or just too lazy to care? </div><div id="m_1862102395057316301m_2564873051631310203m_-6700129079722527493yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1535598728302_20400">Roger</div></div></div>=======================================================<br>
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