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<p>Ditto!</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/9/2018 11:49 AM, Moscow Cares
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<div><span>Tom Hansen</span></div>
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On May 9, 2018, at 11:35 AM, <<a
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<<a href="mailto:rosejhuskey@gmail.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal">I watched the open testimony given by
Ms. Hespelt this morning. She is well trained and adroit
in avoiding questions she is unable/unwilling to answer.
She did cling to the “moral compass” she claims her
parents provided her with (inadequate in my opinion) as
proof of her righteous behavior. It is clear that while
earning her college degree in journalism - language she
missed a basic history class that would have acquainted
her with the Nuremberg trials. Every offense that those
wretched men committed or tolerated was certainly “legal”
in Germany where they were willing
cooperators/collaborators in the horror of the Third
Reich. Gina Haspel’s self-proclaimed moral compass is of
no interest to me – she tortured and guided others to do
so while stationed at a black site in Thailand in 2002.
To this day she is controlling the information received by
the Senate committee apparently providing every “good”
thing she has done in-three years at the CIA and very
little of acts that are repulsive and deserving of
prosecution in any society that has even a modicum of care
for human rights. It is always easy to be fair to those
we agree with, but the test of morality is how we treat
those who we find repulsive. She is, in my opinion, a war
criminal who is unfit to hold public office.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rose Huskey</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
<<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sunil Ramalingam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Darrell Keim <<a
href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> vision2020 <<a
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020@moscow.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Obama Responds to
Trump's Iran Pull-Out</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is the unhealthy break with
tradition and precedent? Not the things that Trump has
been saying for the last year and a half or longer? What
he’s been doing? <br>
<br>
That’s like complaining about the color of the lifeboats
on the Titanic, and remaining silent about the more
important problem that there aren’t enough lifeboats . </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a
href="mailto:keim152@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">keim152@gmail.com</a> <<a
href="mailto:keim152@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">keim152@gmail.com</a>> on
behalf of Darrell Keim <<a
href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">keim153@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:00:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sunil Ramalingam<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dan Carscallen; vision2020<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Obama Responds to
Trump's Iran Pull-Out</span> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, we are both talking style
over substance. Given the current state of politics
in our nation, style seems to trump substance in
importance.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are also talking precedent
being broken in a perhaps unhealthy way.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">(pun unintentional but perhaps
fitting)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:48 AM,
Sunil Ramalingam <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You’re both talking style
over substance. I’ll give you an Obama choice I
find beyond unseemly. His decision not to
prosecute torturers in the Bush Administration
has allowed the nomination of a war criminal for
the position of head of the CIA. That’s not
unseemly, that’s repulsive and disgusting. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
<a
href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>
<<a
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on behalf of Dan Carscallen <<a
href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">areaman@moscow.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:34:42
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> vision2020<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Obama
Responds to Trump's Iran Pull-Out</span> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m with Darrell on
this. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Doesn’t matter to me
who is currently in the office, the
previous guy commenting on his
activities is a little unseemly.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don’t recall anyone
ever doing that. Then again Grover
Cleveland might have, since he did serve
non-concurrent terms. Of course that
was just a little before my time.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">DC</p>
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On May 9, 2018, at 10:22, Darrell Keim
<<a href="mailto:keim153@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Without
commenting on the issue at hand,
I have an observation. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can anyone
recall a past president so
publicly rebuking/countering his
successor on a major policy
change?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May
9, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Nicholas
Gier <<a
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<p><span>Former President
Barack Obama released a
statement after Trump
withdrew the US from the
Iran nuclear deal that
amounted to a point by
point debunking of Trump’s
falsehoods about the
agreement.</span></p>
<p><span>The statement
provided to PoliticusUSA
by Obama’s office is
lengthy but important:</span></p>
<p><span>There are few issues
more important to the
security of the United
States than the potential
spread of nuclear weapons,
or the potential for even
more destructive war in
the Middle East. That’s
why the United States
negotiated the Joint
Comprehensive Plan of
Action (JCPOA) in the
first place.</span></p>
<p><span>The reality is clear.
The JCPOA is working –
that is a view shared by
our European allies,
independent experts, and
the current U.S. Secretary
of Defense. The JCPOA is
in America’s interest – it
has significantly rolled
back Iran’s nuclear
program. And the JCPOA is
a model for what diplomacy
can accomplish – its
inspections and
verification regime is
precisely what the United
States should be working
to put in place with North
Korea. Indeed, at a time
when we are all rooting
for diplomacy with North
Korea to succeed, walking
away from the JCPOA risks
losing a deal that
accomplishes – with Iran –
the very outcome that we
are pursuing with the
North Koreans. </span></p>
<p><span>That is why today’s
announcement is so
misguided. Walking away
from the JCPOA turns our
back on America’s closest
allies, and an agreement
that our country’s leading
diplomats, scientists, and
intelligence professionals
negotiated. In a
democracy, there will
always be changes in
policies and priorities
from one Administration to
the next. But the
consistent flouting of
agreements that our
country is a party to
risks eroding America’s
credibility, and puts us
at odds with the world’s
major powers.</span></p>
<p><span>Debates in our
country should be informed
by facts, especially
debates that have proven
to be divisive. So it’s
important to review
several facts about the
JCPOA.</span></p>
<p><span>First, the JCPOA was
not just an agreement
between my Administration
and the Iranian
government. After years of
building an international
coalition that could
impose crippling sanctions
on Iran, we reached the
JCPOA together with the
United Kingdom, France,
Germany, the European
Union, Russia, China, and
Iran. It is a multilateral
arms control deal,
unanimously endorsed by a
United Nations Security
Council Resolution. </span></p>
<p><span>Second, the JCPOA has
worked in rolling back
Iran’s nuclear program.
For decades, Iran had
steadily advanced its
nuclear program,
approaching the point
where they could rapidly
produce enough fissile
material to build a bomb.
The JCPOA put a lid on
that breakout capacity.
Since the JCPOA was
implemented, Iran has
destroyed the core of a
reactor that could have
produced weapons-grade
plutonium; removed
two-thirds of its
centrifuges (over 13,000)
and placed them under
international monitoring;
and eliminated 97 percent
of its stockpile of
enriched uranium – the raw
materials necessary for a
bomb. So by any measure,
the JCPOA has imposed
strict limitations on
Iran’s nuclear program and
achieved real results. </span></p>
<p><span>Third, the JCPOA does
not rely on trust – it is
rooted in the most
far-reaching inspections
and verification regime
ever negotiated in an arms
control deal. Iran’s
nuclear facilities are
strictly monitored.
International monitors
also have access to Iran’s
entire nuclear supply
chain, so that we can
catch them if they cheat.
Without the JCPOA, this
monitoring and inspections
regime would go away. </span></p>
<p><span>Fourth, Iran is
complying with the JCPOA.
That was not simply the
view of my Administration.
The United States
intelligence community has
continued to find that
Iran is meeting its
responsibilities under the
deal, and has reported as
much to Congress. So have
our closest allies, and
the international agency
responsible for verifying
Iranian compliance – the
International Atomic
Energy Agency (IAEA). </span></p>
<p><span>Fifth, the JCPOA does
not expire. The
prohibition on Iran ever
obtaining a nuclear weapon
is permanent. Some of the
most important and
intrusive inspections
codified by the JCPOA are
permanent. Even as some of
the provisions in the
JCPOA do become less
strict with time, this
won’t happen until ten,
fifteen, twenty, or
twenty-five years into the
deal, so there is little
reason to put those
restrictions at risk
today.</span></p>
<p><span>Finally, the JCPOA
was never intended to
solve all of our problems
with Iran. We were
clear-eyed that Iran
engages in destabilizing
behavior – including
support for terrorism, and
threats toward Israel and
its neighbors. But that’s
precisely why it was so
important that we prevent
Iran from obtaining a
nuclear weapon. Every
aspect of Iranian behavior
that is troubling is far
more dangerous if their
nuclear program is
unconstrained. Our ability
to confront Iran’s
destabilizing behavior –
and to sustain a unity of
purpose with our allies –
is strengthened with the
JCPOA, and weakened
without it. </span></p>
<p><span>Because of these
facts, I believe that the
decision to put the JCPOA
at risk without any
Iranian violation of the
deal is a serious mistake.
Without the JCPOA, the
United States could
eventually be left with a
losing choice between a
nuclear-armed Iran or
another war in the Middle
East. We all know the
dangers of Iran obtaining
a nuclear weapon. It could
embolden an already
dangerous regime; threaten
our friends with
destruction; pose
unacceptable dangers to
America’s own security;
and trigger an arms race
in the world’s most
dangerous region. If the
constraints on Iran’s
nuclear program under the
JCPOA are lost, we could
be hastening the day when
we are faced with the
choice between living with
that threat, or going to
war to prevent it. </span></p>
<p><span>In a dangerous world,
America must be able to
rely in part on strong,
principled diplomacy to
secure our country. We
have been safer in the
years since we achieved
the JCPOA, thanks in part
to the work of our
diplomats, many members of
Congress, and our allies.
Going forward, I hope that
Americans continue to
speak out in support of
the kind of strong,
principled, fact-based,
and unifying leadership
that can best secure our
country and uphold our
responsibilities around
the globe. </span></p>
<h2><span>Obama made a
critical point</span></h2>
<p><span>Much of Trump’s
argument for killing the
Iran deal was based on the
false premise that the
deal was a failure if it
didn’t address all of the
problems with Iran’s
behavior, but the nuclear
deal was never meant to do
that. By design, it dealt
with Iran’s nuclear
program. Republicans have
used this rhetorical
device on the issue of
health care, for example,
as well. It is a false
argument that seeks to
turn something successful
into a failure.</span></p>
<p><span>It is rare for a
former president to come
out with such a strong
statement against an
action taken by a current
president. All evidence
and even members of
Trump’s own administration
say that the deal was
working. </span></p>
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“Enlightenment
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Immaturity is
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understanding
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guidance from
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immaturity is
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understanding,
but in lack of
resolve and
courage to use
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guidance from
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Sapere Aude!
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