<div dir="ltr"><div>The clearly anti-democratic in principle current Electoral College system can be modified without actually "removing" it, which would technically require a constitutional amendment with a two-thirds vote in both the House and the Senate and the ratification of three-fourths (38) of the 50 states. Very, very difficult!</div><div><br></div><div>Some have proposed extending proportional allocation of electoral votes state by state to all states rather than the winner-take-all system most states adopt. There are different ways of doing this. </div><div>Maine and Nebraska already have a form of proportional allocation. Some scholars argue extending proportional allocation to all states does not violate the constitution.</div><div><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/card/why-do-maine-nebraska-split-their-electoral-votes-n679226">https://www.nbcnews.com/card/why-do-maine-nebraska-split-their-electoral-votes-n679226</a><span></span></div><div>"But Maine and Nebraska are different. Each state doles out their electoral votes in pieces rather than as a whole, giving two electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote statewide and then one apiece to the winner in each congressional district. That effectively gives Democrats the chance to win one electoral vote out of conservative Nebraska (coming from the congressional district that contains Omaha), while Republicans have a decent chance of snagging one electoral vote from the most rural part of blue-leaning Maine." <span></span></div><div><br></div><div>Another method, which could end up in the SCOTUS, is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, which while not technically overturning the Electoral Collage, in effect does just that!: </div><div><a href="http://www.projectvote.org/issues/voting-policy/national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/">http://www.projectvote.org/issues/voting-policy/national-popular-vote-interstate-compact/</a></div><div><span>This faces some of the same political hurdles, though perhaps not as daunting, as a constitutional amendment to abolish the Electoral Collage.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Other </span><span>proposals are discussed at this website</span></div><div><span><a href="http://archive.fairvote.org/e_college/reform.htm#bonus">http://archive.fairvote.org/e_college/reform.htm#bonus</a></span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>No matter what reform is proposed, very powerful interests who want to maintain the capability of gaming the "election" of president will vehemently oppose change that truly offers a more one person one vote approach.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I'm stating the obvious... Sorry!</span></div><div><span>--------------------------------------</span></div><div><span>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett</span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Kenneth Marcy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kmmos1@frontier.com" target="_blank">kmmos1@frontier.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
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<p>Since low population states have more per-capita power in the
Senate, Birdsell's suggested demographic shift is not good news
for those who would like to remove the Electoral College from the
Constitution because low population states would have more
incentive to vote against the change. If the Electoral College is
to be removed, sooner rather than later is preferable.</p>
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<p><b>Ken</b></p><div><div class="gmail-h5">
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<div class="gmail-m_-6351330633533922602moz-cite-prefix">On 03/05/2018 10:39 AM, Ron Force
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Since
<div style="font-size:small;display:inline">conviction needs a
2/3rds vote by the senate, Trump has nothing to worry about.
The rest of us...well...</div>
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<div style="font-size:small;display:inline"><br>
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<ul>
<li style="margin:5px 10px;box-sizing:border-box"><strike style="box-sizing:border-box">178.4</strike><span> </span><strong style="font-weight:bold;box-sizing:border-box">180.8</strong><span> </span>million
people are represented by the<span> </span><strike style="box-sizing:border-box">48</strike><span> </span><strong style="font-weight:bold;box-sizing:border-box">49</strong><span> </span>senators
who caucus with the Democrats.</li>
<li style="margin:5px 10px;box-sizing:border-box"><strike style="box-sizing:border-box">144.1</strike><span> </span><strong style="font-weight:bold;box-sizing:border-box">141.7</strong><span> </span>million
people are represented by the<span> </span><strike style="box-sizing:border-box">52</strike><span> </span><strong style="font-weight:bold;box-sizing:border-box">51</strong><span> </span>senators
who caucus with the Republicans.</li>
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<p style="margin:0px auto 18px;color:rgb(17,17,17);text-transform:none;line-height:1.8em;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Georgia;font-size:20px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;max-width:100%;box-sizing:border-box">Buried
at the bottom of<span> </span><a style="color:rgb(25,85,165);line-height:1.8em;font-size:inherit;text-decoration:none;margin-bottom:18px;border-bottom-color:rgb(213,213,213);border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;box-sizing:border-box" href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-variedand-globalthreats-confronting-democracy-1511193763" target="_blank">a recent column</a>, the
Wall Street Journal’s Gerald Seib relayed a nugget
of data he’d picked up.</p>
<p style="margin:0px auto 18px;color:rgb(17,17,17);text-transform:none;line-height:1.8em;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-family:Georgia;font-size:20px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;max-width:100%;box-sizing:border-box">“David
Birdsell, dean of the school of public and
international affairs at Baruch College, notes that
by 2040, about 70% of Americans are expected to live
in the 15 largest states,” Seib wrote. “They will
have only 30 senators representing them, while the
remaining 30% of Americans will have 70 senators
representing them.”</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 5, 2018 8:23 AM, "Tom Hansen"
<<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div dir="auto">. . . How soon after they are sworn in (in
January) will impeachment proceedings begin?
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<div>I’m guessin’ that, if the Democrats do gain such a
majority, the U.S. Congress ( for the first time in
history) will convene every day through the holiday
break, including Christmas day. Trump won’t be
available, though. He’ll be busy packing his bags for
his move to Moscow (the one in Russia).<br>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya
'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow
Cares" (the most fun you can have with your
pants on)</span></div>
<div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">http://www.MoscowCares.com</font></a></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom
Hansen</span></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow,
Idaho</span></div>
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