<div dir="ltr"><div>Wow!</div><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail-m_3037621235097651675gmail-gI"><span class="gmail-m_3037621235097651675gmail-gD" name="Dan Carscallen">Dan Carscallen</span> <span class="gmail-m_3037621235097651675gmail-go"><span><</span><a href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com" target="_blank">areaman@moscow.com</a><span>></span></span> <span class="gmail-m_3037621235097651675gmail-gI">Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:55 PM</span></span></div><div><span class="gmail-m_3037621235097651675gmail-gI"><span class="gmail-m_3037621235097651675gmail-gI">wrote::</span></span></div><div><br></div><div>"I think we need to quit looking for things to get offended by, quit watching and listening to the "news" telling us who or what should offend us, ignore the far- or alt-right and left elements, and live here in the middle where things are going pretty darn good. "</div><div><br></div><div>------------------------------<wbr>----</div><div>I don't know you, and you are probably a fine person...</div><div><br></div><div>But I for one don't listen to the news to tell me who or what should offend me. I can make up my own mind, and I find your post I am responding to offensive: <font size="4">your words, not you as a human being!</font></div><div><br></div><div>Why?</div><div><br></div><div>Because I am offended by people being murdered and injured for simply exercising their constitutional right to assemble and protest against hate ideologies, while implications are being made that this outrage is simply a manipulation of "the news.". Oh, I forgot! It's the "fake news" media misleading me, right? Just ask Donald Trump:</div><div><font size="4">At Rally, Trump Blames Media for Country’s Deepening Divisions:</font></div><div><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/22/us/politics/trump-rally-arizona.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2017/<wbr>08/22/us/politics/trump-rally-<wbr>arizona.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Please correct me if I am wrong, but your post appeared to be adopting a similar line of thinking as Donald Trump? I'll just assume perhaps I have this wrong, to give you the benefit of the doubt!</div><div><br></div><div>OK... I found out about the murder of Heather Heyer in Charlottesville in the "news." But some sources in the news told me she deserved what she got, as you can read: <strong>"They were a bunch of communists out there protesting against somebody's freedom of speech, so it doesn't bother me that they got hurt at all."</strong></div><div><strong><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kkk-leader-charloteesville-im-glad-girl-dies-heather-heyer-killed-james-alex-fields-jr-grand-dragon-a7895851.html" target="_blank">http://www.independent.co.uk/<wbr>news/world/americas/kkk-<wbr>leader-charloteesville-im-<wbr>glad-girl-dies-heather-heyer-<wbr>killed-james-alex-fields-jr-<wbr>grand-dragon-a7895851.html</a></strong></div><div><br></div><div><font size="6">I am also offended by the so called "...middle where things are going pretty darn good." as you phrased it, who were responsible for voting for and placing in the presidency a man who has exhorted his followers to engage in violence.</font><font size="6">against protestors. I don't think it is a stretch to make a connection between the example Trump has set for acceptable behavior, and the death of Heather Heyer. I continue to be stunned into disbelief that a man who would publicly exhort his followers to engage in violence, is actually President of the United States:</font></div><div><br></div><div><font size="6">Tues. Feb, 23, 2016:</font></div><div><font size="6">Donald Trump on Protestor: 'I'd Like to Punch Him in the Face'</font></div><div><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/donald-trump-nevada-rally-punch/" target="_blank"><font size="6">http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/</font><wbr><font size="6">politics/donald-trump-nevada-</font><wbr><font size="6">rally-punch/</font></a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="6">"...here in the middle where things are going pretty darn good?"</font></div><div><font size="6"><br></font></div><div><font size="6">You must be joking!</font></div><div>---------------------------------------</div><div>Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Dan Carscallen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:areaman@moscow.com" target="_blank">areaman@moscow.com</a>></span> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto"><div>Yeah, this is ok, filling a park with dogshit. Something to be proud of. </div><div><br></div><div>The turd-layers are looked upon as skylarkers, just protesting the protestors in a whimsical way.</div><div><br></div><div>But, had some ornery rednecks, or even some well-dressed college republicans, decided to do the same before a rally by some left-wing cause, we'd be up in arms, demanding arrests. Plus all the other "counter-programming" that appears to be planned. What if . . . </div><div><br></div><div>It boggles my mind that folks even pay attention to these fringe elements. The Klan didn't elect Trump. Sure, they probably voted for him, but the 5,000 -10,000 members aren't what I'd call any sort of political player.</div><div><br></div><div>I think we need to quit looking for things to get offended by, quit watching and listening to the "news" telling us who or what should offend us, ignore the far- or alt-right and left elements, and live here in the middle where things are going pretty darn good. </div><div><br></div><div>Sorry for the long post, but this whole dumping of dog turds is a step too far, and I didn't see anything in the article where the organizers said they were going to clean up after, thereby leaving a real nice treat for the city crews.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br><div>DC</div></font></span></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Aug 25, 2017, at 16:27, Scott Dredge <<a href="mailto:scooterd408@hotmail.com" target="_blank">scooterd408@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div>“I just had this image of alt-right people stomping around in the poop,” Tuffy Tuffington said of the epiphany he had while walking Bob and Chuck, his two Patterdale terriers, and trying to think of the best way to respond to rightwing extremists in the
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